Given the constraint that James describes, there are still a couple of
things
you can do to make it easier to unmanage those things you want to discover
but do not want to manage.
1) You can discover certain kinds of things as unmanaged to begin with.
This
is done in the /usr/OV/conf/oid_to_type file, based on snmp sysobjectid.
You
can add a 'U' to certain oids, and you can add a record for non-snmp things
to be unmanaged at discovery. The instructions are in the file. They may
not
stay unmanaged, if for instance you unmanage/manage a subnet, but they will
start out that way.
2) You can have devices in certain address ranges be discovered unmanaged.
This is done in the snmp configuration dialog (Options..SNMP) on an address
wildcard basis by checking one of the buttons at the bottom of the screen.
Again,
this only affects discovery, and can be undone at any time.
3) You can use Collections to group things that you mean to keep unmanaged,
and if that Collection ever shows color, you know something has become
managed
and you can go there to quickly unmanage it. I would be careful to make
this
collection based on some criteria rather than a list of objects, for
reasons of
perfomance and administrative burden. Something like 'not in these other
collections' would work.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit
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Your thinking is fine but there is no command line way to unmamge anything
once
it has been discovered.  That is a map operation, done on a per map basis.
When
the object is unmanaged in all maps, then it is unmanaged in the object
database.

James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support



Paul Vize <paul_vize AT IE.IBM DOT COM> on 02/03/2000 06:33:53 AM

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Subject:  Find then unmanage




Hi,
     Another discovery question. I want to have my seedfile listed with all
possible ranges of addresses we have (16000) to discover all nodes within
these
addresses but then unmanage all nodes that do not appear a a predefined
list of
nodes I am interested in managing and monitoring. I still want to discover
new
nodes, hence the seedfile having all ranges and also make sure the
collections
remain dynamic and any newly found nodes can be added to their collection
and
also passed onto tivoli inventory etc. This way the monitoring polling is
only
on the monitored nodes but there is a once a day(?) poll for new nodes. Is
this
thinking sound and is there a command you can run to unmanage nodes from a
script??

Regards,
Paul

Networking Group - IBM in Ireland