'Map Queen' here...
Gord, what have you got against subnets! The ipmap application will put the
routers and
the networks that connect them on the IP Internet submap. Don't fight it
(here, anyway). In
the subnets you will find the routers, again, plus things defined to
oid_to_type as hubs
or bridges, plus a segment for each interface type. Inside the segment, you
will find all of
the above, plus non-snmp things, and workstations, and things like that. So
you need to let
Netview draw those subnets. When you delete the subnet, you delete the
router's interfaces
on that subnet. That's why the router goes blue. And you won't get any hubs
at all (single-
IP address ones, anyway) without the subnets.
You should partition the map in a manner that makes sense to you. Make
Location icons,
e.g. for geographies, or logical breakdowns in your network. Use cut (from
THIS submap)
and paste to move a group of routers and subnets from the IP Internet
submap into the
new location icon. The connections are redrawn. Generally when it is
cluttered, as yours is
now from a seedfile discovery, I will make some temporary location icons
and cut off some
big fans to get them out of the way. Hint: Make a Collection of
isLocation=TRUE, and it will be
easier to find those little tiny location icons. Learn to use zoom (shift
box-Select) and unzoom
(shift single select) for the first couple of passes. Once inside a
Location submap, you
can add more Location icons and further subdivide. I will often add an icon
just to hold
a bunch of extra subnets that hang off a router but don't go anywhere else
(lans), simply to
make the map less complex. I figure 1 to 2 dozen icons on a submap
Now as for seeing boxes without lines, go to the collection facility. Make
a collection of
routers, and a collection of hubs, and whatever you like. This makes it
easy for you to
find a particular device. But the IPMAP view tells you what the impact of
your outage is,
and allows 'eyeball' correlation as to the root cause of an apparent
outage. For that,
you need not just boxes, but boxes and lines.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Gord,
My recommendations would be as follows:
1. Place location sub-maps (containers) onto the internet submap.
2. Use the Edit, Cut/Paste feature to move the objects between maps (vs.
Edit, Delete),
this will keep your connections.
Anybody else with suggestions?
Scott Hammons
McBride and Associates, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gord Michaels [mailto:gord_michaels AT HOTMAIL DOT COM]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 2:49 PM
To: NV-L AT UCSBVM.ucsb DOT edu
Subject: Map Customization...
Hello All.
Netview 5.1.
I have created a seedfile and I have turned off the "Discover New Nodes".
The resulting map is quite congested with hundreds of subnet icons. I want
to create several locations and place the appropriate routers and hubs in
them and delete all the subnets.
I went and tried to delete all the subnets (edit --> delete object --> from
this submap)but that left some of my routers 'disconnected' from anything
else on the map and they turned blue. Then I did a netmon -y and all the
subnets came back like before!
Surely, there must be a way to customize my map, have everything connected
and be able to do a netmon -y without all the subnets coming back? Any
ideas
on this.
Thanks Gord.
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