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Re: NetView stops after trap arrival

1999-11-04 09:31:45
Subject: Re: NetView stops after trap arrival
From: Gord Michaels <gord_michaels AT HOTMAIL DOT COM>
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:31:45 PST
James,

What do you mean exactly when you say....

"... trapd queues **traps** until the socket is empty and then passes all
the queued events to waiting applications."

I am confused about the portion in ** **.

Thanks James.

Gord.


>From: James Shanks <James_Shanks AT TIVOLI DOT COM>
>Reply-To: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
>        <NV-L AT UCSBVM.ucsb DOT edu>
>To: NV-L AT UCSBVM.ucsb DOT edu
>Subject: Re: NetView stops after trap arrival
>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:12:06 -0500
>
>Mike -
>
>Well, you can get some temporary relief by adjusting the "connected
>applications
>queue size" on trapd to a number much higher than his default size of 2000.
>  Try
>20,000, assuming that you have enough memory and paging space on the box
>for
>something like this.
>
>What happens is that when the UDP socket fills up, trapd queues traps until
>the
>socket is empty and then passes all the queued events to waiting
>applications.
>If the applications cannot keep up, they are forced off, so by raising the
>queue
>limit you can prevent that.
>
>But you cannot prevent other problems by doing this.  The NetView daemons
>still
>have to process all those traps, and by having so many from other sources,
>you
>delay NetView's own processing, even slowing down the map updates and so
>on.
>
>And you will not get any sympathy from me by saying:
>
>I know that traps should be stopped at the source, but I don't own all the
>network equipements, and I have to live with them coming...
>
>NetView does not need these traps from other sources and they do not come
>in by
>accident.  Someone had to configure that router to change its trap
>destination
>to the NetView box.  And that same person had to be told to do that because
>the
>router will not configure itself nor will it tell you what the address of
>the
>NetView box is.    So whoever was told to configure that router that way
>could
>be just as well told to re-configure it to stop sending any traps to
>NetView or
>else to use a configuration file that is more reasonable and does not send
>so
>many.
>
>
>James Shanks
>Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>
>
>
>Mike Raad <mike.raad AT FR.IBM DOT COM> on 11/04/99 03:47:56 AM
>
>Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
>NetView
>       <NV-L AT UCSBVM.UCSB DOT EDU>
>
>To:   NV-L AT UCSBVM.UCSB DOT EDU
>cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
>Subject:  NetView stops after trap arrival
>
>
>
>
>Hello,
>I have a problem with NetView V5.1.1 and Optivity 8.1.1 on AIX 4.2.1 - all
>patches are installed and server works fine, but often we see a great
>number of
>traps arrving to NetView,  they are all the same, then NetView daemons stop
>one
>after the other because they can't bufferize anymore and NetView GUI stops,
>and
>NetView is in bad state.
>I know that traps should be stopped at the source, but I don't own all the
>network equipements, and I have to live with them coming...
>
>Can anyone tell me if he had this problem with Netview ? where should I
>start
>looking ? what can I do to protect NetView from going down ?
>
>Cordialement - Best Regards
>Mike Raad
>Tel : +33 (0) 2 40 41 44 64 , GSM 0685035546
>Systems & Network Management Specialist - TIVOLI
>IBM France   (e-mail address : mike.raad AT fr.ibm DOT com)

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