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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 73, Issue 7

2012-05-10 19:41:57
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 73, Issue 7
From: "Jimenez, Daniel" <Daniel.Jimenez AT owb DOT com>
To: "veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu" <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 16:41:47 -0700
Peter

I had the same 13 error issues so I opened up a case with Symantec but they 
have not been able to resolve all my issues. I am using VCB to backup our VMs 
and using file level. I have been able to temporarily fix the issues by 
adjusting the data paths on certain policies to get them to run. For example, 
if the backup path is d:\backup\testing, remove the testing folder and backup 
d:\backup and see if the backup runs successfully. If that does not work, try 
d:\ and see if that works. It will require you to backup more data but it will 
get your backups to work. If none of those solutions work, you will have to 
backup the VM using the "Mapped Full VM Backup" option. Hope this helps but I 
think it is a bug in Netbackup 7.1.0.3 and 7.1.0.4.

==============================================================================================
I am running NBU 7.1.0.3, and I keep getting some VMWare backups failing with 
error status 13.
Some don't do anything and fail. Others back up a certain amount and then fail.
Whereas some in the same policy run fine.
Have disabled quiesce on them, as they are just filesystem backups, and they 
have active applications running.
This again fixed some, but still have a large number failing with status 13.

Daniel Jimenez
Backup and Recovery

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Today's Topics:

   1. remote tpconfig command for getting fully qualified tape
      drive name and status? (Jerry Hoetger)
   2. Re: License File (Jon Bousselot)
   3. Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU (Simon Weaver)
   4. VMWare Backups Status 13 (Peter Ford)
   5. Re: Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU (Michael Graff Andersen)
   6. Event OID:362:V-1-1 Unspecified error. on (re)install     of
      Netbackup (Michael Graff Andersen)
   7. Re: remote tpconfig command for getting fully qualified tape
      drive name and status? (Lightner, Jeff)
   8. Re: Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU (Martin, Jonathan)
   9. Re: remote tpconfig command for getting fully qualified tape
      drive name and status? (Kendall, Scott)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 22:09:38 +0000
From: Jerry Hoetger <jerry.hoetger AT aptare DOT com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] remote tpconfig command for getting fully
        qualified tape drive name and status?
To: "veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"
        <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Message-ID:
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I need to get complete tape drive name and status remotely now. I had been 
using tpconfig on the local server, but I want to centralize my command 
interface on a remote server. I looked at vmoprcmd, but:

1) vmoprcmd truncates drive names that are longer than 20 characters. This has 
caused issues. Two drives whose name are identical in their first 20 characters 
won't be distinguished.
The 20 characters limit has been present for a long time and is still present 
today in NetBackup 7.5.

2) while tpconfig connects "physically" to the drives, vmoprcmd gets its data 
from the NetbackUp database, so there is always the possibility that vmoprcmd 
is not always accurate. This is particularly the case if a configuration change 
was made without restarting the Media Manager daemon (ltid).

Does anyone know of a command that I can use remotely to get tape drive status 
and fully qualified names?

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH31854
http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/how-netbackup-determines-drive-status

Jerry

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 20:58:36 -0700
From: Jon Bousselot <jon-bousselot AT pacbell DOT net>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] License File
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
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In unix it is...

/usr/openv/var/license.txt

The program /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/get_license_key edits this
file.

On 05/09/2012 05:43 AM, David.Clooney AT rbs DOT com wrote:
> Hi
>
> Does anyone know where netbackup stores its license key information? i.e. 
> what file?
>
> Regards
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> Dave
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:44:37 +0100
From: "Simon Weaver" <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU
To: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
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All
Going to 7.5 shortly, but there is talk about bringing in a "NetApp" device, 
where it will replace our standard file Server.

Not fully familiar with NetApp and how it talks to NetBackup, I wanted to find 
out from any real world experience how it is used and backed up.

For example, if it holds 8TB of Data, do I need a License for NBU for NDMP and 
use a wizard to configure?
How do you backup your NetApp devices? Any pros or cons to the setup?

Its advice I am after, so to get real world experience is better to fully 
understand how it works. I got the NBU NDMP Papers here, and the NetApp papers, 
but there is just too much to go through, and I basically want to get an idea 
on how good Netapp is, how quick it can backup and more important, recovery?

I saw an online Demo of some sort of NetApp Snapshot feature, where some text 
files were created, a VSS Snapshot copy was made, the files deleted and then 
recovered. But 1kb files is EASY to recover, but wondering how you recover 8TB 
!! :-)

Thank you for any advice

Yours
Simon
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:30:36 +0100
From: Peter Ford <pfwhufc AT hotmail DOT com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] VMWare Backups Status 13
To: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
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I am running NBU 7.1.0.3, and I keep getting some VMWare backups failing with 
error status 13.
Some don't do anything and fail. Others back up a certain amount and then fail.
Whereas some in the same policy run fine.
Have disabled quiesce on them, as they are just filesystem backups, and they 
have active applications running.
This again fixed some, but still have a large number failing with status 13.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:31:17 +0200
From: Michael Graff Andersen <mian71 AT gmail DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU
To: Simon Weaver <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net>,
        "veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"
        <VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Message-ID:
        <CAA3b+ZTb0TjJ0ZpCJSqqxtqaxQUW6jA--tT5PUhzjtRqVoVuWQ AT mail.gmail DOT 
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Hi Simon

You need a license for NDMP if you want backup directly from the
Netapp controller.

As always the speeed varies seen everything from basically not moving
to full speed on the LTO3 tape drev.
One thing you need to be aware of is that the ndmp process is a low
priority process on the filer.

Recovery of single files from NDMP takes quite while as the backup
server/filer has to go through the metadata and find the relevant
bits. But mostly you will restore single files from the snapshots

The internal snapshot functions well, but be aware they require space & cpu.

Hope this helps

Regards
Michael

2012/5/10 Simon Weaver <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net>:
> All
> Going to 7.5 shortly, but there is talk about bringing in a "NetApp" device,
> where it will replace our standard file Server.
>
> Not fully familiar with NetApp and how it talks to NetBackup, I wanted to
> find out from any real world experience how it is used and backed up.
>
> For example, if it holds 8TB of Data, do I need a License for NBU for NDMP
> and use a wizard to configure?
> How do you backup your NetApp devices? Any pros or cons to the setup?
>
> Its advice I am after, so to get real world experience is better to fully
> understand how it works. I got the NBU NDMP Papers here, and the NetApp
> papers, but there is just too much to go through, and I basically want to
> get an idea on how good Netapp is, how quick it can backup and more
> important, recovery?
>
> I saw an online Demo of some sort of NetApp Snapshot feature, where some
> text files were created, a VSS Snapshot copy was made, the files deleted and
> then recovered. But 1kb files is EASY to recover, but wondering how you
> recover 8TB !! :-)
>
> Thank you for any advice
>
> Yours
> Simon
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:08:49 +0200
From: Michael Graff Andersen <mian71 AT gmail DOT com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Event OID:362:V-1-1 Unspecified error. on
        (re)install     of Netbackup
To: "veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"
        <VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
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Hello

Got this event:

Log Name:      Application
Source:        NetBackup
Date:          09-05-2012 12:48:26
Event ID:      0
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      DK01SC004-1.simcorp.int
Description:
OID:362:V-1-1 Unspecified error.

when (re)installing Netbackup 7.1 on a Windows 2008 R2 cluster.

Have discovered that OID 362 is nbars

Already have a case with Symantec regarding the reinstall

Have sombody seen this or a similar error ?

Regards

Michael


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:25:49 +0000
From: "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner AT water DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] remote tpconfig command for getting fully
        qualified tape drive name and status?
To: Jerry Hoetger <jerry.hoetger AT aptare DOT com>,
        "veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"
        <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Message-ID: <040B89C8B1E1D945AE2700C511A039E918A4DD AT ATMEXDB03.dsw DOT net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

vmdareq?






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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:10 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] remote tpconfig command for getting fully qualified tape 
drive name and status?

I need to get complete tape drive name and status remotely now. I had been 
using tpconfig on the local server, but I want to centralize my command 
interface on a remote server. I looked at vmoprcmd, but:

1) vmoprcmd truncates drive names that are longer than 20 characters. This has 
caused issues. Two drives whose name are identical in their first 20 characters 
won't be distinguished.
The 20 characters limit has been present for a long time and is still present 
today in NetBackup 7.5.

2) while tpconfig connects "physically" to the drives, vmoprcmd gets its data 
from the NetbackUp database, so there is always the possibility that vmoprcmd 
is not always accurate. This is particularly the case if a configuration change 
was made without restarting the Media Manager daemon (ltid).

Does anyone know of a command that I can use remotely to get tape drive status 
and fully qualified names?

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH31854
http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/how-netbackup-determines-drive-status

Jerry






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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:13:29 -0400
From: "Martin, Jonathan" <JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU
To: "Simon Weaver" <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net>,
        <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
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You will need to license one or both of your NetApp controllers
depending on the model, which corresponds to "tier" of NetBackup
license. I believe our 2040s require a single tier-2 license, but our
3160s(?) require two tier-3 licenses. If I may, I suggest that you look
into snapmirror to tape and snapshots. Snapmirror to tape requires the
NDMP license for NetBackup, but does not require any additional licenses
on the NetApp.



Snapmirror to tape will allow you to backup your 8TB very quickly, but
it won't allow you to do individual file restores. To counter that, we
keep several weeks of snapshots available on the array. If a user needs
a file they can go into a hidden .snapshot folder and see the folder
structure as it existed at the time of snapshot. If they need any data
older than that, we have to restore the entire volume from tape. It's
not perfect, but we haven't had to restore a single volume here (other
than for testing) and our users get to go hunt for their own files to
"restore" (aka copy from snapshot) which it about as good as it gets for
me here.



Good luck!



-Jonathan



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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:45 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Advice / Experience - NetApp and NBU



All

Going to 7.5 shortly, but there is talk about bringing in a "NetApp"
device, where it will replace our standard file Server.



Not fully familiar with NetApp and how it talks to NetBackup, I wanted
to find out from any real world experience how it is used and backed up.



For example, if it holds 8TB of Data, do I need a License for NBU for
NDMP and use a wizard to configure?

How do you backup your NetApp devices? Any pros or cons to the setup?



Its advice I am after, so to get real world experience is better to
fully understand how it works. I got the NBU NDMP Papers here, and the
NetApp papers, but there is just too much to go through, and I basically
want to get an idea on how good Netapp is, how quick it can backup and
more important, recovery?



I saw an online Demo of some sort of NetApp Snapshot feature, where some
text files were created, a VSS Snapshot copy was made, the files deleted
and then recovered. But 1kb files is EASY to recover, but wondering how
you recover 8TB !! :-)



Thank you for any advice



Yours

Simon

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:23:03 -0400
From: "Kendall, Scott" <scott.kendall AT twcable DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] remote tpconfig command for getting fully
        qualified tape drive name and status?
To: Jerry Hoetger <jerry.hoetger AT aptare DOT com>,
        "veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"
        <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
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vmoprcmd can run tpconfig commands on a remote media server.

it has been mentioned a few times on this list.  search the archives for 
-devconfig


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mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] remote tpconfig command for getting fully qualified tape 
drive name and status?

I need to get complete tape drive name and status remotely now. I had been 
using tpconfig on the local server, but I want to centralize my command 
interface on a remote server. I looked at vmoprcmd, but:

1) vmoprcmd truncates drive names that are longer than 20 characters. This has 
caused issues. Two drives whose name are identical in their first 20 characters 
won't be distinguished.
The 20 characters limit has been present for a long time and is still present 
today in NetBackup 7.5.

2) while tpconfig connects "physically" to the drives, vmoprcmd gets its data 
from the NetbackUp database, so there is always the possibility that vmoprcmd 
is not always accurate. This is particularly the case if a configuration change 
was made without restarting the Media Manager daemon (ltid).

Does anyone know of a command that I can use remotely to get tape drive status 
and fully qualified names?

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH31854
http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/how-netbackup-determines-drive-status

Jerry


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