RMAN would still need non-expired images in its own catalog to
be able to fulfill the requests of the autobackup though right ? Correct me if
I’m wrong but whether the images are still in NBU or not, unless they are still
in the RMAN catalog the recovery request by RMAN will fail.
Mark Glazerman
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From: Kevin Corley
[mailto:Kevin.Corley AT apollogrp DOT edu]
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:23 AM
To: Mark Glazerman; Lightner, Jeff
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] RMAN crosscheck
As long as you have autobackup enabled, you shouldn’t need the
rman repository. If netbackup has the images in the catalog, restore the
control file from autobackup, which has the rman pieces info and will poll
netbackup for the images associated with them.
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Mark
Glazerman
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:58 AM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN crosscheck
Jeff,
I can only really comment on your last question about using
expired RMAN images for restores if they are not expired in NetBackup. We
had a similar issue a few weeks back where Netbackup could still see images in
its catalog of oracle backups (which initiate a RMAN backup via the
oracle_backup.sh script) but RMAN had already expired them inside its own
catalog. These files were not recoverable by RMAN. We had the DBA’s
set their retention inside RMAN to match the retention specified inside NBU so
that we don’t see this mis-match again.
Ultimately, RMAN controls the expiration of the images inside
its catalog meaning that regardless of the expiration you set for oracle
backups inside NBU, RMAN will keep or expire those images, regardless of what
Netbackup is trying to tell it. I don’t know how you’d configure RMAN to
handle your vaulting needs. Would setting the expiration of these images
in RMAN to the longest required length of time (4 months for example) mean that
the vaulted images would still be good for the max time they’d need to be held
on either the Data Domain or tape ? The Netbackup catalog doesn’t need to
know about the RMAN images for them to still be recoverable by RMAN so you
could set a different, shorter expiration inside NBU although this would still
leave you with different retentions in the two different catalogs
FYI The solaris client we were trying to restore these RMAN images to is running
6.5.4 with a 7.0 master and media server.
Mark Glazerman
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From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Lightner,
Jeff
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:12 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RMAN crosscheck
My
DBAs are starting to question me about an RMAN crosscheck they are running.
Essentially
I gather that when they ran it the crosscheck seemed to report even backups run
in the last 2 days as expired.
On
checking the Data Domain unit I can see the images are still there and on
running NetBackup commands I see these are NOT expired from NBU’s perspective.
On
doing a search I did find a document at Symantec that talked about RMAN
expirations but it only went up through 6.0 so I’m not sure if it is still
valid for 6.5. It says essentially that on the NBU side we should set
very long retentions (e.g. INFINITY) for all RMAN backup policies then let RMAN
keep track of retentions itself. The downside I see to this is we
do vaulting of the images on data domain to tape – we set retention on data
domain to 1 month then the vault copies get longer retentions (e.g. 3 months
for a daily backup). How would we get RMAN to set and keep track of
such retention differences?
The
DBAs have opened a TAR with Oracle to see why the crosscheck is reporting the
images as expired but I suspect from the NBU document that the answer will be
something like “it is expired so far as RMAN is concerned”. This
also begs the question as to whether RMAN could be used to restore the backups
even if they aren’t expired so far as NBU is concerned. Does anyone know
the answer to that?
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