Re: [Veritas-bu] open files to be backed up

It's not a matter of whether you can or can not backup an open file, it's the type of open file that you are backing up. If it is a database file and the database isn't aware that you are backing up its file the file will not be in a state that the database can use if/when you restore it. MOST database consist of more than one file so the current file that is being backed up will be in one state whereas the next file will be in a different state and so on. So that when the files are restored they will all be in different "positions" and the database won't know how to reconcile that difference. Database can be backed up without agents but the database must be in control of the backup in order to insure a stable environment for the restore. I hope this makes sense.

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Patrick Whelan
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From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: 22 March 2010 14:04
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] open files to be backed up

Didn’t Curtis’ book include some information on backing up databases without the database agent?

I was waiting for the plug. =P

-Jonathan

From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of SACHIN ARORA
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:01 AM
To: Justin Piszcz
Cc: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] open files to be backed up

Thanks for replying...

Hovewer, i'm kinda illetrate in this...can you elaborate "you need a connector to backup databases"

Can't these filed be backed up via open file file backup (VSS/VSP)

Regards

Sachin

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com> wrote:

Hi,

MDF is a SQL Server Express DB file, you will have problems backing them up if they keep changing when you back them up. Usually you need a connector to backup databases.

Justin.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010, SACHIN ARORA wrote:

Hi All,

I have a small issue here :

Backup of one of the server is getting partially successfull

Master : Solaris 10 , netbackup 6.5.4
Client : window 2003 , netbackup 6.5.4

Here the files that are not getting backed up :

03/19/2010 21:31:38 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\MSSQL\Data\Audit_DB_Data.MDF (WIN32 32: The process cannot access the
file because it is being used by another process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:39 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\Audit_DB_Log.LDF
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:40 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\crnmr4_Data.MDF
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:41 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\crnmr4_Log.LDF
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:41 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\master.mdf
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:42 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\mastlog.ldf
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:43 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\model.mdf (WIN32
32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another
process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:44 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\modellog.ldf
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:45 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\msdbdata.mdf
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. )
03/19/2010 21:31:46 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't
open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\msdblog.ldf
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. )
03/19/2010 21:59:29 - end writing; write time: 0:58:17
the requested operation was partially successful (1)

I want these files to be backed up. I tried
Disabled Open file backup and refired backup - -- still didnot backup these
files
Selcted -- Enabled VSP , Individual drive snapshot, Abort on error --
refired backup -- still didnot backup these files
Selcted -- Enabled VSS , Individual drive snapshot, Abort on error --
refired backup -- still didnot backup these files

Can sombody help me how to get these files to be backed up. its a production
server , need to fix this quickly

Thanks
Sachin

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