Re: [Veritas-bu] FA for NetBackup 7

The binaries for Exchange and MSSQL are also included in the Windows client, but you have to license them before using, so this model is not new. It would be nice if Symantec clarified what is and is not included, though. It would be nice if they cleaned up the licensing model, too, while they are at it =).

On another note, I had been under the impression that OpsCenter (similar to NOM) was the new and only way to manage NetBackup. I was corrected by a Symantec Rep who stated that the classic Java GUI (and I would assume the classic Windows Admin Console) is still available. Just throwing that out there for anyone else who thought the same way I did.

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To	Scott Jacobson <SJACOBSO AT novell DOT com>
cc	smpt <smpt1 AT peppas DOT gr>, "Small, Robin" <Robin.Small AT fresno DOT gov>, veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject	Re: [Veritas-bu] FA for NetBackup 7

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Scott Jacobson <SJACOBSO AT novell DOT com> wrote:
Are you saying what seems to be "included" as with this upcoming release; an imbedded feature and it will still cost?

Yup. The binaries are installed as part of the media server install.

Hmm, what else in v7.x will we look forward too with our wallet in hand.

This isn't the first and I don't see anything too badly wrong with the model (except the price!). When you install a Windows client, you get the Advanced client functionality. You need to purchase a license before you can actually use it. There are parts of the master server install that also require add-on fees (vault, additional tape drives, ndmp, etc.)

Also, on this thread, de-dupe, works good, but not the solution for all systems - elaboration?

Some things de-dupe well and some things don't. We get great de-dupe for our remote offices in PureDisk. We evaluated de-dupe in our main office and got lousy de-dupe because we deal with different document types here (a LOT of tiffs).

If you're the type of shop that wants 10 or 20 copies of the same file backed up, then de-dupe might be for you. If you have short retentions for unique data, de-dupe is not for you. You need to carefully evaluate 1 or more of the de-dupe products to see how well it fits into your environment and then do the ROI - does it actually cost more to de-dupe it than to put the data to disk or tape? If so, de-dupe might not be for you.

.../Ed

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Thanks,
Scott

>>> Ed Wilts <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org> 12/17/2009 1:45 PM >>>
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:18 PM, smpt <smpt1 AT peppas DOT gr> wrote:
Dedupe works really good. But be careful, it is not the solution for all systems .

It's also not free. You will pay for each terabyte of pre-duped data.

.../Ed

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