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4. Re: Media Server Migration (Dean)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:15:42 -0400
From: Ray S <netbackup-forum AT backupcentral DOT com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Using Datalink for NetBackup Support
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We use Datalink for our NetBackup support and I can't recall a case that I've
filed with them that I wasn't completely satisfied with their support. They're
very knowledgeable about the product, and quite a few have experience outside
of just NetBackup (unix, switches, data domain, etc).
For the record we have several environments using NetBackup with Solaris and
Windows both. We also utilize NDMP, Data Domain Restorers with VTL
configurations (about to implement replication), NetApp filers, LTO2 and 3
libraries (Quantum and Storagetek), and Cisco and Brocade SAN switches. I've
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:30:06 -0500
From: "Clausen, Matt R [EQ]" <Matthew.R.Clausen AT Embarq DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sgscan cannot see robot after library power
cycle
To: "'Karl Rossing'" <karlr AT barobinson DOT com>,
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Have you run a devfsadm? Also, what Solaris kernal are you running? There was
an issue with a patch that basically destroyed the sg driver.
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] sgscan cannot see robot after library power cycle
T1000 S10U4 master
There was a power outage on the library and now sgscan cannot see the robot.
/dev/sg/c0t5l0: Processor: "SUN StorEdge 3120 D"
/dev/sg/c0t8l0: Disk (/dev/rdsk/c1t8d0): "SEAGATE ST330000LSUN300G"
/dev/sg/c0t9l0: Disk (/dev/rdsk/c1t9d0): "SEAGATE ST330000LSUN300G"
/dev/sg/c1t1l0: Tape (/dev/rmt/0): "HP Ultrium 3-SCSI"
/dev/sg/c2t0l0: Disk (/dev/rdsk/c0t0d0): "ATA HITACHI HDS7280S"
I'm thinking of running
/usr/sbin/modinfo | grep sg
126 7bb72da8 1718 97 1 sysmsg (System message redirection (fan)
188 13d4320 35d0 285 1 sg (SCSA Generic Revision: 3.6)
232 7b7cc000 2168 49 1 msgsys (System V message facility)
232 7b7cc000 2168 49 1 msgsys (32-bit System V message facilit)
/usr/sbin/modunload -i 188
/usr/sbin/modload sg
The machine in question also servers up NFS home directories. I don't want
those to drop.
Do you think that will bring the robot back? Are there side effects to doing
this?
Karl
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:33:36 -0500
From: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using media sharing in 6.5?
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I got a response from my Symantec rep, and here's what he said:
"It was just a warning. If you are using ACSLS access control, you need to
make sure that all the NBU media servers in the NBU media share group have
the same ACSLS access permissions on the media in the ACSLS database. Kind
of obvious, but it?s actually been a minor issue in regular NBU running
without media sharing."
If it's this simple, why couldn't that have been put in to the manual?
Anyway, I'll be implementing this feature in the next week or so and will
report back on how it goes.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone using media sharing in 6.5?
I could see some problems if your ACSLS setup has watch_vols going (all
tapes are not visible to all servers automatically). Enabling Media
Sharing across all media servers could then open the door to NetBackup
requesting a tape mount on a server that can't actually see that tape
maybe.
Not something I've seen, just a possibility.
- John Nardello
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I was just looking over this last night, and was surprised it's not on by
default....
I also ran across a statement in the guide that said you should use
caution with ACS libraries, but I could not tell why you needed to be
cautious. Anyone have an idea?
Thanks,
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[Veritas-bu] Anyone using media sharing in 6.5?
I'm finding that I'm vaulting quite a few partially used tapes, because
each tape can only be written by the server that owns it, and I have 7
media servers. The new media sharing option in 6.5 looks like it would
help to optimize the tape usage, but I'm wondering if anyone has tried
this out yet? I checked the knowledge base and there are several bugs
related to media sharing that are fixed in 6.5.2 (which I am using).
Just a bit nervous to enable this in production. I'm also wondering
where a shared tape is mounted for a restore...is it based on the server
that the image was written on, since there would be no overall tape
"owner"? We use alternate restore server options quite frequently, so I
don't want to break that.
Any comments on media sharing would be greatly appreciated.
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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:21:08 +1000
From: Dean <dean.deano AT gmail DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server Migration
To: "Mike Andres" <mandres AT brocade DOT com>
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We are about to do this. The basic steps we are looking at are :
* bpmedia -movedb for each tape owned by the media server so that the tapes
are owned by the old 5.1 master
* Uninstall NBU 5.1 on media server
* Install NBU 6.5 on media server and integrate into new 6.5 environment
* Remove storage units associated with the media server in the 5.1
environment
* Remove SERVER= entries from the 5.1 environment
* Possibly, further down the track, import remaining long retention backups
from 5.1 environment into 6.5 environment
Cheers,
Dean
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Mike Andres <mandres AT brocade DOT com>
wrote:
> I would be interested in hearing thoughts on migrating a 5.1 Media
> server from a legacy 5.1 Master to a new, different 6.5 Master server.
> Would this require formally decommissioning the 5.1 media server via the
> 5.1 master then reinstalling 6.5 media server under the new 6.5 Master?
>
> Or is there a faster, easier way to migrate while maintaining media and
> image integrity?
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
> Simon (external)
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:59 AM
> To: Martin, Jonathan
> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?
>
>
> Good discussion, as I am looking at "MIGRATION" from 5.1 Server to NEW
> Server 6.5.2
>
> My onyl concerns I have in the back of my head is how to move a Media
> Server that is on 5.1 over to 6.5.2
>
> Anyone done a migration from an old system to a new one?
>
> Not too worried about the old robot or catalog, as this is all being
> replaced. If need be, I will have to import.
>
> Some systems are SQL, Oracle based online media servers
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
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> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
> Jonathan
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:35 PM
> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?
>
> Yeah! Cheap shots at Symantec are reserved for those of us who have
> spent many restless nights fighting Netbackup. =P
>
> Just my .02 - Migrated several Windows 2000 5.1 environments to 6.0 MP4
> and then to 6.5.1, 6.5.2 and 6.5.2a. Although there have been issues,
> I've only had to apply one engineering binary to one environment that
> had an issue with calendar backups. Maybe I'm just lucky (or maybe
> Symantec doesn't test on Non-Windows OS =P) but from my experience I
> think 5.1, 6.0 MP4, 6.51+ are all stable products.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> ________________________________
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> To: Bluejay AT fujigreenwood DOT com
> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:04 AM, <Bluejay AT fujigreenwood DOT com> wrote:
>
>
> Watch out for this one with 6.5.1 on Windows:
>
> http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/301175.htm
>
>
> The technote says that this is fixed in 6.5.2. <http://6.5.2./>
>
>
>
> Right now I'm caught between that one and the completely broken
> 6.5.2A -
> http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/305609.htm
>
>
> The technote says that there's an EEB available for this. 6.5.2A is
> *NOT completely broken. Many years, us included, are running it in full
> production.
>
>
>
>
> You'd think they'd test this stuff before release by ,say,
> trying to run a
> backup or something...
>
>
> This has been discussed before. Your comment is unwarranted and low
> shots like this don't encourage Symantec employees or other users to
> help you.
>
>
>
> .../Ed
>
> Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE
> ewilts AT ewilts DOT org
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:48:07 -0600
From: "Mike Andres" <mandres AT Brocade DOT COM>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server Migration
To: "Dean" <dean.deano AT gmail DOT com>
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Same here, that's pretty much my plan. However, with large catalog's
that bpmedia -movedb step can literally run for days, even weeks on a
media server with many tapes. I've thought about using bpimage to move
the images rather than the media. I haven't tested it thoroughly yet.
Does anyone have experience with this alternative, is it any faster? Is
it sufficient to move image and tape ownership away from the migrating
media server?
________________________________
From: Dean [mailto:dean.deano AT gmail DOT com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:21 PM
To: Mike Andres
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Server Migration
We are about to do this. The basic steps we are looking at are :
* bpmedia -movedb for each tape owned by the media server so that the
tapes are owned by the old 5.1 master
* Uninstall NBU 5.1 on media server
* Install NBU 6.5 on media server and integrate into new 6.5 environment
* Remove storage units associated with the media server in the 5.1
environment
* Remove SERVER= entries from the 5.1 environment
* Possibly, further down the track, import remaining long retention
backups from 5.1 environment into 6.5 environment
Cheers,
Dean
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Mike Andres <mandres AT brocade DOT com>
wrote:
I would be interested in hearing thoughts on migrating a 5.1 Media
server from a legacy 5.1 Master to a new, different 6.5 Master server.
Would this require formally decommissioning the 5.1 media server via the
5.1 master then reinstalling 6.5 media server under the new 6.5 Master?
Or is there a faster, easier way to migrate while maintaining media and
image integrity?
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Simon (external)
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:59 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?
Good discussion, as I am looking at "MIGRATION" from 5.1 Server to NEW
Server 6.5.2
My onyl concerns I have in the back of my head is how to move a Media
Server that is on 5.1 over to 6.5.2
Anyone done a migration from an old system to a new one?
Not too worried about the old robot or catalog, as this is all being
replaced. If need be, I will have to import.
Some systems are SQL, Oracle based online media servers
Thanks,
Simon
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:35 PM
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?
Yeah! Cheap shots at Symantec are reserved for those of us who have
spent many restless nights fighting Netbackup. =P
Just my .02 - Migrated several Windows 2000 5.1 environments to 6.0 MP4
and then to 6.5.1, 6.5.2 and 6.5.2a. Although there have been issues,
I've only had to apply one engineering binary to one environment that
had an issue with calendar backups. Maybe I'm just lucky (or maybe
Symantec doesn't test on Non-Windows OS =P) but from my experience I
think 5.1, 6.0 MP4, 6.51+ are all stable products.
-Jonathan
________________________________
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Sent: Thu 8/21/2008 7:46 AM
To: Bluejay AT fujigreenwood DOT com
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:04 AM, <Bluejay AT fujigreenwood DOT com> wrote:
Watch out for this one with 6.5.1 on Windows:
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/301175.htm
The technote says that this is fixed in 6.5.2. <http://6.5.2./>
Right now I'm caught between that one and the completely broken
6.5.2A -
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/305609.htm
The technote says that there's an EEB available for this. 6.5.2A is
*NOT completely broken. Many years, us included, are running it in full
production.
You'd think they'd test this stuff before release by ,say,
trying to run a
backup or something...
This has been discussed before. Your comment is unwarranted and low
shots like this don't encourage Symantec employees or other users to
help you.
.../Ed
Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE
ewilts AT ewilts DOT org
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:56:16 -0400
From: RobertSinger <netbackup-forum AT backupcentral DOT com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup - restore Novell b/u to Windows
server
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Hi,
At my shop we have a bunch of backup tapes that were made from a Novell 5
server using Netbackup (version 5 I believe). I've been asked to restore data
from one of those tapes. Of course our last Novell server is long gone. We
have Windows (2003) servers mostly running Netbackup version 6.
Is it possible to restore these Novell backups to a Windows server using
Netbackup? I don't care about the permissions; I just need the files. Thanks
for your help.
Robert Singer
Portland, Oregon USA
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:42:41 -0400
From: "Curtis Preston" <cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup - restore Novell b/u to Windows
server
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That's definitely a question for support, especially given that it's Friday
night.
Curtis Preston??|??VP Data Protection??
GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.
?
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup - restore Novell b/u to Windows server
Hi,
At my shop we have a bunch of backup tapes that were made from a Novell 5
server using Netbackup (version 5 I believe). I've been asked to restore data
from one of those tapes. Of course our last Novell server is long gone. We
have Windows (2003) servers mostly running Netbackup version 6.
Is it possible to restore these Novell backups to a Windows server using
Netbackup? I don't care about the permissions; I just need the files. Thanks
for your help.
Robert Singer
Portland, Oregon USA
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