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Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

2008-05-23 02:02:54
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers
From: "Chacko, Savil" <SavilChacko AT templeinland DOT com>
To: <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net>, <david_carpe AT symantec DOT com>, <cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>, <Bluejay AT fujigreenwood DOT com>, <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 00:45:47 -0500

Has anyone tried to do this by zoning the tape drives and robot directly to the guest's WWN via NPIV?  I would think you would have better success/performance that way than if you vitualized the targets and had the ESX host playing more of a middle man. Just wondering.

-savil

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers


Dave / Curtis
Ok - 2 conflicting responses here! If its unsupported, then from a business direction I guess its not a viable option to go this route. (If what you say is right with the I/O then that is the last thing I need).

Simon

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From: Dave Carpe [mailto:david_carpe AT symantec DOT com]
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

It is not supported. There are massive problems with the I/O.

David K. Carpe
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Symantec Corporation
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From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

It works for me just fine, but I don't think it's supported.



Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection
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From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers


Hi Curtis
Well guess what...... there is a client that is looking at VM'ing Master and Media Servers and want to use a tape drive or robot!

I am under the impression its not supported or works. Your comments seem to reflect this may not be the case.

Can you clarify?

Simon

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

When you say they don't support, you must mean that they won't give you support on it.  All you have to do is create virtual scsi devices for each tape drive/robot device, then you see the robot and drives in the guest OS. 

Admittedly, I haven't done it for production, but I haven't found it to be too difficult or unreliable.

BUT, I'm trying to figure out why anyone would do that in production.  Performance SUCKS!



Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection
GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.
 
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VM Master / Media Servers

> Is Symantec actually going to be supporting a Virtual Machine as a
> Master or Media Server (San Media too), which can use SSO to share a
> tape library?

A recent exercise with VMware a few months ago brought to light that VMware does NOT support guest access to SAN-based tape drives, and has no plans to do so. Some fiddling around managed to get a guest to see such tape drives, but they did not work reliably at all.

                                                                      - Bluejay Adametz

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