Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. NetBackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from 6.5
2008-04-10 05:24:49
Nah,
I do not like Bill too much, BUT he was there at the right time
and he will still be included with those great and wonderful men. Denis is one
of the most humble men I have ever had the privilege of meeting!
Kind Regards,
Clem Kruger
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From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner AT water DOT com]
Sent: 09 April 2008 15:14 PM
To: Clem Kruger; Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp
isgone from 6.5
Lumping in a marketer like Bill Gates with TECHNICAL experts like
Dennis Ritchie is plain silly. Bill didn’t “create”
anything – he saw an opportunity when IBM came knocking and bought QDOS to
resell to IBM. (We won’t talk about the fact that QDOS was
pretty much believed to be a knock off of CP/M). After DOS became
the main OS for IBM PC compatible systems he was able to force much of the rest
of the world into dependence on his other products not by their technical
superiority but by practices that got the DOJ in the U.S. to start an
anti-trust action against him and the E.U. which has now judged it as
monopolistic twice.
By the way – I’m pretty sure it was us old farts that
were joking about old farts.
From: Clem Kruger [mailto:Clem AT re-thinking-it DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:58 AM
To: Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts; Jeff Lightner
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp
isgone from 6.5
Can
someone please explain what am "old fart" is?
There are only 3
certainties in life, death, taxes and change. The last two we can control but
death started the day we were born.
Those of you who used
the term "Old Fart", just remember one day you will wake up and find
yourself much older and then you too will be offended by being called an old
fart!
The changes we have
seen through the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and now the 21st
century has made us better people and most of all we (old farts) are
disciplined. You needed to drop a try of cards once to understand discipline.
Will you be
remembered when you are gone? The old farts Bill Gates, Dennis Ritchie, Ken
Thompson and many others will be. Do you know why? Because they were the
pioneers, because all we had was a pair of pliers and some wire.
We never had memory
leaks because could not waste memory. Go and learn assembler and find out what
a thrill it is to do so much with very little.
I just hope that you
are fit in mind and body when it is your turn to be called an “old
fart” so that you can ask yourself “did I leave any foot prints
others can follow”?
I took offence, but
now enjoy remembering the program sheets, the cards and ticker tape. The
something we made from nothing. It is great to say we were part of the pioneers
and just hope the pioneering spirit will continue.
Enjoy your life and
have some compassion.
Regards,
Clem.
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Sent: Wed 2008/04/09 05:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp
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And programming on punch cards…Oh, what FUN!
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Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp
is gone from 6.5
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jeff
Lightner <jlightner AT water DOT com>
wrote:
We now prefer to be called Chronologically Mature Methane Producers
or ChMMPs (NOT to be pronounced as Chimps so as not offend the Evolutinarilly
Challenged…)
An old fart like me can't remember a name
*that* long. I can remember paper tape though...
.../Ed (hiding out at SNW in
the state that defines old)
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