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Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1

2008-01-31 05:43:47
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1
From: "Clooney, David" <david.clooney AT bankofamerica DOT com>
To: "WEAVER, Simon (external)" <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net>, Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com, VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:13:01 +0000
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From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external)
Sent: 30 January 2008 16:54
To: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1

All
I have 18 large Media Servers, all Win2k3, single TL with SSO and 12 drives. I tend to sort out most problems without bringing the whole lot down.
 
When I do maintenance on the library, I shutdown all of the NBU Services first, then power down the library.
 
Once the library is up, I then re-run device manager to scan for new hardware, and the drives and library come into play on each Media Server..... In most cases this can be done remotely. Once the server sees the library, start the Master and then media servers and check drive status. In almost all cases, everything has come up fine. Yes a little pain, but its done in such an Art, it rarely takes that long to do this task.
 
The one issue I had a problem with involved performing a scsi reset while NetBackup was idle due to a drive in a complete mixed state that could not recover from manually. (cant find the technote, but its a scsi release command to be done on all affected drive(s)).
 
Apart from this, its mostly trouble free. If its working, I leave things well alone. The environment is 5.1 and soon to be moved to 6.x and if 6.x is as better than 5.1, then I look forward to this upgrade to make Admin Life easier. I agree, getting the right hardware and configuration in place is a must.
 
S.


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:23 PM
To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1

I agree with Randy, I've had a lot of issues with the Media/SAN Media Windows servers. I would recommend that if you are pre 6.x, examine your backup requirements for each server and use teaming (I have also experienced problems with these) or Gig NICs when you can. Not only will this solution save you money, but it will also save you administration headache, regardless of Media server platform, when you do run into problems.
 
-Rusty


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Randy Samora
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:11 AM
To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1

NetBackup doesn't "get it" until version 6.  I am 100% windows here with a mixture of 19 Media and SAN Media servers sharing a library with 24 drives.  First, stabilize it.  Zone your library and make sure that the only servers that can even see the library are servers that you want to see the library.  Check HBA settings and disable removable storage service.  Until you have the communication paths really stable between servers and drives, the problems won’t ever cease.  But once you have it stable, it typically will stay that way.

 

However, in version 5.1, whenever I had to do any type of maintenance on my library causing it to lose connection to NetBackup servers, I had to reboot all of my NetBackup servers before I could get NetBackup to see the library again.  My SAN Media servers are high profile servers and rebooting them periodically wasn’t a popular activity with our customers.  Microsoft said it wasn’t Windows, Symantec said it wasn’t NetBackup and I could never get a straight answer.  But 6.0 doesn’t have that problem.  I can reboot the library all day long and as soon as it is back on line, NetBackup is back on line.

 

Thanks,

Randy

 

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Whats Best Practice for SSO in NBU 5.1

 

 

but would you implement such a large sso environment with Windows servers?  we've shared 20,30,40 drives across many windows servers and it becomes hell whenever drives go offline and/or is replaced and then shuffles in the os.  we've used persistent binding but this doesn't help with vtl drives.  but sometimes, netbackup just doesn't get it.

 

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