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[Veritas-bu] Backing Up Old Files

2007-01-19 04:36:38
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing Up Old Files
From: simon.weaver at astrium.eads.net (WEAVER, Simon)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:36:38 -0000
Hello
Sadly I do not! I can tell you that we use it for Exchange, but we simply
backup the server as a NBU Client.

>From exchanege, it works well - set different policies on mailboxes -
however suggest you verify the full requirements before looking at it.

I do know its VERY VERY EXPENSIVE!!! But as users are unwilling to clear out
old Data (even though I have backup tapes with a LONG retention of years,
they are not helping themselves.

Same old problem.... Users.... Access files, or move files and never use
them again... Leave a company and no one knows jack about it! What do they
do ... Leave it alone !

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net



-----Original Message-----
From: Hampus Lind [mailto:hampus.lind at rps.police.se]
Sent: 19 January 2007 09:19
To: WEAVER, Simon; 'Ed Wilts'; 'Brooks, Jason'
Cc: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu] Backing Up Old Files


Hi,

I am really interested in what you find out from your EV.

Do you have any good comment on how to handle backups together with
archiving? Should backup solution be archive aware and don't backup the
archived files or there "links"?

What about applying a de-dup backup solution instead? Perhaps one just
pushes the problem further into the future with a de-dup solution.. But it`s
hourse job for us to ask the business who they want to handle there
information.. (some classification need to be done before applying archiving
policies).

Thanks and regards,


Hampus Lind
Rikspolisstyrelsen
National Police Board
Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
E-mail: hampus.lind at rps.police.se


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fr?n: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:simon.weaver at astrium.eads.net]
Skickat: den 19 januari 2007 09:57
Till: 'Hampus Lind'; 'Ed Wilts'; 'Brooks, Jason'
Kopia: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
?mne: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing Up Old Files


Hi
Enterprise Vault 6 is meant to be work with NBU 5.1 and above

However, I am looking at EV not just for NetBackup, but for other backups
systems I use.

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator


EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net



-----Original Message-----
From: Hampus Lind [mailto:hampus.lind at rps.police.se]

Sent: 19 January 2007 08:53
To: WEAVER, Simon; 'Ed Wilts'; 'Brooks, Jason'
Cc: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: SV: [Veritas-bu] Backing Up Old Files


Hi guys,

Does enterprise vault have integration with netbackup? Do you see any other
positive effects by using a backup solution and archive solution from the
same vendor? (except for better prices and greater attention)

We are evaluating archive solutions for the moment, right now we are testing
SAM-FS from SUN. Anyone have experience with SAM-FS?

Thanks and regards,


Hampus Lind
Rikspolisstyrelsen
National Police Board
Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
E-mail: hampus.lind at rps.police.se


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] F?r WEAVER, Simon
Skickat: den 19 januari 2007 09:13
Till: 'Ed Wilts'; Brooks, Jason
Kopia: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
?mne: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing Up Old Files


Completely with ED on this ! Thanks for the link Ed ... Just saved me a job
:-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator


EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org]

Sent: 19 January 2007 02:55
To: Brooks, Jason
Cc: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing Up Old Files


On 1/18/2007 2:47 PM, Brooks, Jason wrote:
> My manager has just posed a question to me to answer.  The scenario is
> that we have a multitude of old files, dating to the 1980s, that are

> being backed up weekly.  Many of the files are of a significant size

> and have a significant impact on our backup capacity.  In an effort to

> reduce backup sizes and windows and free up resources, he wants to

> basically date filter a backup and archive that.
>

> For instance, create a policy and backup all files dated prior to
> 2002. Obviously, I can find nothing in the bare NBU that will do that.

> Does anyone know of a NBU product/hack that could do this?

The product is Enterprise Vault.

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/products/agents_options_details.jsp?pcid=
1018&pvid=322_1&aoid=406

It ain't cheap and isn't a hack.  It's a serious archiving solution for

serious archiving problems.

Don't forget that you actually have 2 problems, not 1.  You don't just

want to be able to archive the files.  You probably want to be able to

get them back :-)

        .../Ed


--

Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org

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