I am not sure allow is the correct word.  If I scheduled a full backup
to run across midnight and checked both days in the calendar schedule
then I had an issue where the backup job never ran.  I did not fail or
anything it just did not run.  The interface would allow me to configure
the policy and recreating the policy did not change the effects.  I
spoke with Netbackup and the fix the gave me (work around) was not to
cross the midnight boundary.


-Jonathan Marks 


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Beuttel [mailto:scb4 at georgetown.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:31 AM
To: Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO
Cc: Bob Stump; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based
backupschedule.bppllist included.

I'm sorry ... did I read correctly that you have verified that NBU 6.0
will not allow a start window to cross midnight? And someone actually
told you that was a feature because to do so is a "bad practice"?

Is this common experience?

Thanks,
-Steve-
~~~~



Bob Stump wrote:
> goofy isn't the word I was thinking of....bad prcatice to do backups 
> from 6PM to 6AM????
>  
> anyhow. I should have included that I am using NB5.1_MP4
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> >>> "Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO" <Jonathan.Marks at ftc.usda.gov>
> 6/13/2006 12:02 PM >>>
> If you are using Netbackup 6.0 you can not have your start window 
> cross midnight.  I was told that it is bad practice.  I think 
> Netbackup has gone goofy.
>  
>
> -Jonathan Marks
>  
>
> *From:* Bob Stump [mailto:stumpb at michigan.gov]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2006 4:02 PM
> *To:* veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup 
> schedule.bppllist included.
>
> I have years of experience with frequency based scheduling but I have 
> always shied away from calendar based. Today I made my first attempt 
> and I cannot see where I made a mistake. Please review this and help 
> me if you can. Thanks.
>  
>  
> Here is the problem
> The calendar based backup started on the first day that I made this 
> policy active even though it is not suppose to be active until the 
> last Monday of the month.
>  
> Here is the strategy
> 1. full backup every monday night excluding last monday of the month 
> with 1 month retention
>    allow tuesday full for any failures that may occur on monday 3. 
> last monday of each month run a calendar full backup with 3 month 
> retention
>    retries allowed after runday which would be tuesday night.
> 2. incremental backup every night except monday nights with 1 month 
> retention
>  
> Here is the bppllist:
> Policy Name:       groupwise01-09
>  
>   Policy Type:         Standard
>   Active:              yes
>   Effective date:      06/12/2006 08:00:00
>   Client Compress:     no
>   Follow NFS Mounts:   no
>   Cross Mount Points:  no
>   Collect TIR info:    no
>   Block Incremental:   no
>   Mult. Data Streams:  yes
>   Client Encrypt:      no
>   Checkpoint:          no
>   Policy Priority:     25
>   Max Jobs/Policy:     Unlimited
>   Disaster Recovery:   0
>   Residence:           dssu_grp
>   Volume Pool:         Novell
>   Keyword:             (none specified)
>  
>   HW/OS/Client:  Novell        NetWare       gw01
>                  Novell        NetWare       gw02
>                  Novell        NetWare       gw03
>                  Novell        NetWare       gw04
>                  Novell        NetWare       gw05
>                  Novell        NetWare       gw06
>                  Novell        NetWare       gw07
>                  Novell        NetWare       gw08
>                  Novell        NetWare       gw09
>  
>   Include:  /FS
>  
>   Schedule:          17.30_mon_calendar
>     Type:            Full Backup
>     Maximum MPX:     10
>     Synthetic:       0
>     PFI Recovery:    0
>     Retention Level: 5 (3 months)
>     Number Copies:   1
>     Fail on Error:   0
>     Residence:       dssu04
>     Volume Pool:     (same as policy volume pool)
>     Calendar sched: Enabled
>       Allowed to retry after run day
>       SPECIFIC DATE 0 - 06/26/2006
>       SPECIFIC DATE 1 - 07/31/2006
>       SPECIFIC DATE 2 - 08/28/2006
>       SPECIFIC DATE 3 - 09/25/2006
>       SPECIFIC DATE 4 - 10/30/2006
>       SPECIFIC DATE 5 - 11/27/2006
>       SPECIFIC DATE 6 - 12/25/2006
>       Monday, Week 5
>     Daily Windows:
>           Monday     18:30:00  -->  Tuesday    04:00:00
>           Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  04:00:00
>  
>   Schedule:          17.30_mon_full
>     Type:            Full Backup
>     Frequency:       every 5 days
>     Maximum MPX:     10
>     Synthetic:       0
>     PFI Recovery:    0
>     Retention Level: 3 (1 month)
>     Number Copies:   1
>     Fail on Error:   0
>     Residence:       dssu04
>     Volume Pool:     (same as policy volume pool)
>       EXCLUDE DATE 0 - 06/26/2006
>       EXCLUDE DATE 1 - 07/31/2006
>       EXCLUDE DATE 2 - 08/28/2006
>       EXCLUDE DATE 3 - 09/25/2006
>       EXCLUDE DATE 4 - 10/30/2006
>       EXCLUDE DATE 5 - 11/27/2006
>       EXCLUDE DATE 6 - 12/25/2006
>     Daily Windows:
>           Monday     17:20:00  -->  Tuesday    04:00:00
>           Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  04:00:00
>  
>   Schedule:          17.30_mon_inc
>     Type:            Differential Incremental Backup
>     Frequency:       every 12 hours
>     Maximum MPX:     10
>     Synthetic:       0
>     PFI Recovery:    0
>     Retention Level: 3 (1 month)
>     Number Copies:   1
>     Fail on Error:   0
>     Residence:       (specific storage unit not required)
>     Volume Pool:     (same as policy volume pool)
>     Daily Windows:
>           Sunday     17:30:00  -->  Monday     04:00:00
>           Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  04:00:00
>           Wednesday  17:30:00  -->  Thursday   04:00:00
>           Thursday   17:30:00  -->  Friday     04:00:00
>           Friday     17:30:00  -->  Saturday   04:00:00
>           Saturday   17:30:00  -->  Sunday     04:00:00
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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