Veritas-bu

[Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question

2006-05-16 12:11:56
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question
From: GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com (Greenberg, Katherine A)
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:11:56 -0400
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Or you can just use the GUI and have NetBackup manage the restore for=0D=0A=
you=2E=2E=2E=0D=0A =0D=0AKinda nice that when you're browsing for files to =
restore from, the=0D=0Adates default back to the last successful full backu=
p=2E=0D=0A =0D=0AI always found this helpful to pass out to our users, sinc=
e we (for the=0D=0Amost part) have them perform their own restores=2E=0D=0A=
 =0D=0Ahttp://seer=2Esupport=2Everitas=2Ecom/docs/272323=2Ehtm=0D=0A<http:/=
/seer=2Esupport=2Everitas=2Ecom/docs/272323=2Ehtm> =0D=0A=0D=0A~Kate =0D=0A=
=0D=0A-----Original Message-----=0D=0AFrom: veritas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=
=2Eauburn=2Eedu=0D=0A[mailto:veritas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu]=
 On Behalf Of WEAVER,=0D=0ASimon=0D=0ASent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:02 PM=
=0D=0ATo: 'Justin Piszcz'=0D=0ACc: DLew97; veritas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eaubur=
n=2Eedu=0D=0ASubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question=0D=0A=0D=
=0A=0D=0AAbsolutely correct :-)=0D=0A =0D=0A =0D=0A=0D=0ARegards=0D=0A=0D=
=0ASimon Weaver=0D=0A3rd Line Technical Support=0D=0AWindows Domain Adminis=
trator =0D=0A=0D=0AEADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)=0D=0AAnchorage Road=
, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU=0D=0A=0D=0AEmail: Simon=2EWeaver@Astrium-eads=2Enet=
=0D=0A<mailto:Simon=2EWeaver@Astrium-eads=2Enet> =0D=0A=0D=0A   -----Original=
 Message-----=0D=0A     From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpiszcz=2Ebackup@gmail=2Eco=
m] =0D=0A       Sent: 16 May 2006 15:20=0D=0A   To: WEAVER, Simon=0D=0A Cc: 
DLew97;=
 veritas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu=0D=0A  Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Re=
tention Period Question=0D=0A   =0D=0A  =0D=0A  Also Justin, in a restore proce=
ss, it should be the last Full=0D=0Aplus last Incr to recover=2E (Cumulativ=
e)=0D=0A=0D=0A  Many people don't do cumulative, but differential, and when =
you=0D=0Ado differential you need to restore, in order, each differential g=
oing=0D=0Ain order 17th 18th 19th etc=2E=2E=0D=0A       =0D=0A  
=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=
        On 5/16/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon=2Eweaver@astrium=2Eeads=2Enet> 
wrote:=0D=
=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A         Hmmm=2E=2E=2E well what I do is 
this=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=0D=
=0A              =0D=0A         Weekly Full Backups around 1 month=0D=0A        
        Incr Backups 3 week=
s=0D=0A         Month End backups set for 12 month retention!=0D=0A             
 =0D=0A         With=
 the settings you have, my guess is your Catalog=0D=0ABackups are going to =
grow quite fast :-)=0D=0A                =0D=0A         Also Justin, in a 
restore process, it s=
hould be the last=0D=0AFull plus last Incr to recover=2E (Cumulative)=0D=0A=
                 =0D=0A          =0D=0A=0D=0A           Regards=0D=0A=0D=0A     
        Simon Weaver=0D=0A              3rd Line=
 Technical Support =0D=0A               Windows Domain Administrator 
=0D=0A=0D=0A               EADS =
Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)=0D=0A           Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU=
=0D=0A=0D=0A            Email: 
Simon=2EWeaver@Astrium-eads=2Enet=0D=0A<mailto:Simon=
=2EWeaver@Astrium-eads=2Enet> =0D=0A=0D=0A              =0D=0A=0D=0A            
        -----Original Me=
ssage-----=0D=0A                        From: DLew97 
[mailto:dlew97@gmail=2Ecom] =0D=0A                 Sent: =
16 May 2006 14:14=0D=0A                 To: 
veritas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu=0D=0A=
                        Subject: [Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question=0D=0A   
                =0D=0A                  =0D=0A  =
                Our corporate retention policy for data is=0D=0A60days 
guaranteed=2E=0D=
=0A                      =0D=0A                 How should I setup my retention 
periods?=0D=0A                   =0D=0A                 =
Currently we run a FULL every 4 weeks and a=0D=0ADifferential Incremental e=
very day=2E=0D=0A                        =0D=0A                 I have 60 days 
set for the incremental and 90=
=0D=0Adays set for the full=2E  I am not sure if this setting is correct=2E=
  I=0D=0Aneed to guarantee 60 days of data at all times=2E  I am afraid tha=
t the=0D=0Aearlier FULL is needed to do a restoration if the the file has n=
ot been=0D=0Apicked up by the incrementals=2E =0D=0A                     =0D=0A 
                Any sugges=
tions?=0D=0A                    =0D=0A                  -- =0D=0A               
        DLew97 =0D=0A=0D=0AThis email is for th=
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Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract or=0D=
=0Aobligation=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AEADS Astrium Limited, Registered in England and=
 Wales No=2E 2449259=0D=0ARegistered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, =
Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS,=0D=0AEngland=0D=0A      =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AThis email is 
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act or=0D=0Aobligation=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AEADS Astrium Limited, Registered in En=
gland and Wales No=2E 2449259=0D=0ARegistered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, St=
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9420916-16052006><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff>Or you can =0D=0Ajust =
use the GUI and have NetBackup manage the restore for =0D=0Ayou=2E=2E=2E</F=
ONT></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A<DIV><SPAN class=3D709420916-16052006><FONT face=3DT=
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=0Athat when you're browsing for files to restore from, the dates default b=
ack to =0D=0Athe last successful full backup=2E</FONT></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A<D=
IV><SPAN class=3D709420916-16052006><FONT face=3DTahoma =0D=0Acolor=3D#0000=
ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A<DIV><SPAN class=3D709420916-16052006><F=
ONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff>I always =0D=0Afound this helpful to pass=
 out to our users, since we (for the most part) have =0D=0Athem perform the=
ir own restores=2E</FONT></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A<DIV><SPAN class=3D709420916-16=
052006></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A<DIV><SPAN class=3D709420916-16052006><A =
=0D=0Ahref=3D"http://seer=2Esupport=2Everitas=2Ecom/docs/272323=2Ehtm";><U><=
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3=2Ehtm</U></FONT></A><FONT =0D=0Aface=3DTahoma color=3D#0000ff><BR></DIV><=
/FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma =0D=0Acolor=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>=0D=0A<DIV><S=
PAN class=3D709420916-16052006><FONT face=3DTahoma =0D=0Acolor=3D#0000ff>~K=
ate</FONT></SPAN>=0D=0A<DIV></DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><FONT color=
=3D#0000ff =0D=0Asize=3D3><BR></FONT>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:=
</B> =0D=0Averitas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu =0D=0A[mailto:veri=
tas-bu-admin@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>WEAVER, =0D=
=0ASimon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Just=
in =0D=0APiszcz'<BR><B>Cc:</B> DLew97; =0D=0Averitas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eaub=
urn=2Eedu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] Retention =0D=0APeriod Questi=
on<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>=0D=0A<DIV><SPAN class=3D443180216-16052006><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial =0D=0Acolor=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Absolutely correct =0D=0A:-)</=
EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</D=
IV>=0D=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT=
 size=3D2><FONT =0D=0Aface=3DArial><FONT =0D=0Acolor=3D#0000ff>Regards</FON=
T></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>=0D=0A<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3De=
n-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT size=3D2><FONT =0D=0Aface=3DArial><FON=
T color=3D#0000ff>Simon Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =0D=0Af=
ace=3DArial color=3D#0000a0 size=3D2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support<BR>=
Windows =0D=0ADomain Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=3DArial> =
</FONT></SPAN></P>=0D=0A<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><I><FONT face=3DArial color=
=3D#0000ff size=3D2>EADS Astrium =0D=0ALimited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></=
SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><BR><FONT face=3DArial =0D=0Acolor=3D#0000ff size=
=3D2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 =0D=0A5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>=
=0D=0A<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM=
>Email: =0D=0A</EM></FONT><A href=3D"mailto:Simon=2EWeaver@Astrium-eads=2En=
et"><FONT face=3DArial =0D=0Asize=3D2><EM>Simon=2EWeaver@Astrium-eads=2Enet=
</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>=0D=0A<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=
=0D=0A  <DIV></DIV>=0D=0A  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us d=
ir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =0D=0A  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Me=
ssage-----<BR><B>From:</B> Justin Piszcz =0D=0A  [mailto:jpiszcz=2Ebackup@g=
mail=2Ecom] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 May 2006 =0D=0A  15:20<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER=
, Simon<BR><B>Cc:</B> DLew97; =0D=0A  veritas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Ee=
du<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Veritas-bu] =0D=0A  Retention Period Question<BR=
><BR></FONT></DIV>=0D=0A  <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=
=3D#0000ff>Also Justin, in a =0D=0A  restore process, it should be the last=
 Full plus last Incr to recover=2E =0D=0A  (Cumulative)</FONT></EM></STRONG=
></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A  <DIV><BR>Many people don't do cumulative, but differe=
ntial, and when you do =0D=0A  differential you need to restore, in order, =
each differential going in order =0D=0A  17th 18th 19th etc=2E=2E<BR><BR></=
DIV><BR><BR>=0D=0A  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 5/16/06, <B class=3Dg=
mail_sendername>WEAVER, =0D=0A  Simon</B> &lt;<A =0D=0A  href=3D"mailto:sim=
on=2Eweaver@astrium=2Eeads=2Enet">simon=2Eweaver@astrium=2Eeads=2Enet</A>&g=
t; =0D=0A  wrote:</SPAN> =0D=0A  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote =0D=0A  st=
yle=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204=
,204,204) 1px solid">=0D=0A    <DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV><SPAN><FO=
NT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Hmmm=2E=2E=2E well what I do =
=0D=0A    is this=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A=
    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial =0D=0A    color=3D#0000ff></F=
ONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT=
 face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Weekly Full Backups =0D=0A    around 1 month<=
/FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT fac=
e=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Incr Backups 3 =0D=0A    weeks</FONT></EM></STRON=
G></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D=
#0000ff>Month End backups set =0D=0A    for 12 month retention!</FONT></EM>=
</STRONG></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial =
=0D=0A    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A   =
 <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>With the setting=
s you =0D=0A    have, my guess is your Catalog Backups are going to grow qu=
ite fast =0D=0A    :-)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV><SPA=
N><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial =0D=0A    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></ST=
RONG></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=
 color=3D#0000ff>Also Justin, in a =0D=0A    restore process, it should be =
the last Full plus last Incr to recover=2E =0D=0A    (Cumulative)</FONT></E=
M></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV>&nbsp;</D=
IV>=0D=0A    <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><=
FONT size=3D2><FONT =0D=0A    face=3DArial><FONT =0D=0A    color=3D#0000ff>=
Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>=0D=0A    <P align=3Dlef=
t><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT size=3D2><FONT =0D=0A =
   face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Simon =0D=0A    Weaver</FONT><BR></FO=
NT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000a0 =0D=0A    size=3D2><STR=
ONG>3rd Line Technical Support <BR>Windows Domain =0D=0A    Administrator</=
STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></SPAN></P>=0D=0A    <P><SPAN=
 lang=3Den-gb><I><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>EADS Astrium =
=0D=0A    Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><BR><=
FONT =0D=0A    face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>Anchorage Road, Po=
rtsmouth, PO3 =0D=0A    5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>=0D=0A    <P><SPAN lang=
=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>Email: =0D=0A    <=
/EM></FONT><A onclick=3D"return top=2Ejs=2EOpenExtLink(window,event,this)" =
=0D=0A    href=3D"mailto:Simon=2EWeaver@Astrium-eads=2Enet"; target=3D_blank=
><FONT face=3DArial =0D=0A    size=3D2><EM>Simon=2EWeaver@Astrium-eads=2Ene=
t</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P></DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dq>=0D=0A    =
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=0D=0A      <DIV></DIV>=
=0D=0A      <DIV lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma si=
ze=3D2>-----Original =0D=0A      Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> DLew97 [mailt=
o:<A =0D=0A      onclick=3D"return top=2Ejs=2EOpenExtLink(window,event,this=
)" =0D=0A      href=3D"mailto:dlew97@gmail=2Ecom"; target=3D_blank>dlew97@gm=
ail=2Ecom</A>] =0D=0A      <BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 May 2006 14:14<BR><B>To:</B>=
 <A =0D=0A      onclick=3D"return top=2Ejs=2EOpenExtLink(window,event,this)=
" =0D=0A      href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu"; =0D=
=0A      target=3D_blank>veritas-bu@mailman=2Eeng=2Eauburn=2Eedu</A><BR><B>=
Subject:</B> =0D=0A      [Veritas-bu] Retention Period Question<BR><BR></FO=
NT></DIV>=0D=0A      <DIV>Our corporate retention policy for data is 60days=
 guaranteed=2E</DIV>=0D=0A      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A      <DIV>How shoul=
d I setup my retention periods?</DIV>=0D=0A      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A   =
   <DIV>Currently we run a FULL every 4 weeks and a Differential Incrementa=
l =0D=0A      every day=2E</DIV>=0D=0A      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A      <D=
IV>I have 60 days set for the incremental and 90 days set for the =0D=0A   =
   full=2E&nbsp; I am not sure if this setting is correct=2E&nbsp; I need t=
o =0D=0A      guarantee 60 days of data at all times=2E&nbsp; I am afraid t=
hat the earlier =0D=0A      FULL is needed to do a restoration if the the f=
ile has not been picked up =0D=0A      by the incrementals=2E </DIV>=0D=0A =
     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0D=0A      <DIV>Any suggestions?<BR clear=3Dall><BR>=
-- <BR>DLew97 =0D=0A    </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN></DIV>=0D=0A    <DIV></DI=
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      Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, =0D=0A  England<BR></FONT></TD></TR></TBODY><=
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   the views of EADS Astrium Limited=2E<BR>Nothing in this email shall bind=
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ADS Astrium =0D=0A      Limited, Registered in England and Wales No=2E 2449=
259<BR>Registered Office: =0D=0A      Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfor=
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