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[Veritas-bu] FQDNs or Not ? [recommendations please]

2006-05-03 09:42:41
Subject: [Veritas-bu] FQDNs or Not ? [recommendations please]
From: ckstehman AT pepco DOT com (ckstehman AT pepco DOT com)
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 09:42:41 -0400
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Here's my two cents, I recommend using DNS all the way.  We use DNS with 
short names aliased to the FQDN.  I do not recommend using HOST files.
They are a nightmare to administer.


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Carl Stehman 
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
ckstehman AT pepco DOT com



David Rock <dave-bu AT graniteweb DOT com> 
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* Rockey Reed <rockey_reed AT symantec DOT com> [2006-05-01 05:37]:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ed 
> > Wilts
> > Yes.  Not just for for NetBackup, but in general, use FQDN whenever
> > possible.
> > 
> In this area I cannot help but to disagree with Ed, for whom I have
> great respect.  The use of FQDN is used too often to mask a poor DNS
> configuration.  With NBU you need full forward and reverse lookup.  When
> either is missing a short term solution would be the use of /etc/hosts
> files until your network team can fix the DNS by adding the servers IP
> address to both zones.

This sounds like an argument FOR using DNS, not against it. :-)

Don't forget, the question was about using FQDN, _not_ using DNS.  Which
way you implement it doesn't really matter (although generally that DOES
mean using DNS).

Basically, using FQDN is a good idea because it creates genuinely
unique client names in NetBackup.  Without this, you run a real risk of
having two client short names that are the same.  You might not see this
in a single-company, single-site environment, but it is a real danger in
multi-customer or multi-site environments.  How many exchange1 servers
are out there, I wonder?
Imagine in an outsourcing situation where you have to tell client B that
the name of their server will have to change because client A got there
first (exchange servers don't like having a NBU client name that is
different from their real name).

The ONLY downside I have come across when using FQDN is when you work
heavily in the CLI.  It does get tiresome when typing a long FQDN on the
commandline to do a bplist or some other activity, but knowing the
clients are unique helps a lot.  This can also be mitigated quite a bit
with scripting and other looping activities off of bpplclients, anyway.

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Here's my two cents, I recommend using
DNS all the way. &nbsp;We use DNS with short names aliased to the FQDN.
&nbsp;I do not recommend using HOST files.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">They are a nightmare to administer.</font>
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Carl Stehman <br>
Pepco Holdings, Inc.<br>
202-331-6619<br>
Pager 301-765-2703<br>
ckstehman AT pepco DOT com</font>
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<br><font size=2><tt>* Rockey Reed &lt;rockey_reed AT symantec DOT com&gt; 
[2006-05-01
05:37]:<br>
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &gt; From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
&gt; &gt; [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
Ed Wilts<br>
&gt; &gt; Yes. &nbsp;Not just for for NetBackup, but in general, use FQDN
whenever<br>
&gt; &gt; possible.<br>
&gt; &gt; &nbsp;<br>
&gt; In this area I cannot help but to disagree with Ed, for whom I have<br>
&gt; great respect. &nbsp;The use of FQDN is used too often to mask a poor
DNS<br>
&gt; configuration. &nbsp;With NBU you need full forward and reverse lookup.
&nbsp;When<br>
&gt; either is missing a short term solution would be the use of /etc/hosts<br>
&gt; files until your network team can fix the DNS by adding the servers
IP<br>
&gt; address to both zones.<br>
<br>
This sounds like an argument FOR using DNS, not against it. :-)<br>
<br>
Don't forget, the question was about using FQDN, _not_ using DNS. 
&nbsp;Which<br>
way you implement it doesn't really matter (although generally that DOES<br>
mean using DNS).<br>
<br>
Basically, using FQDN is a good idea because it creates genuinely<br>
unique client names in NetBackup. &nbsp;Without this, you run a real risk
of<br>
having two client short names that are the same. &nbsp;You might not see
this<br>
in a single-company, single-site environment, but it is a real danger in<br>
multi-customer or multi-site environments. &nbsp;How many exchange1 servers<br>
are out there, I wonder?<br>
Imagine in an outsourcing situation where you have to tell client B that<br>
the name of their server will have to change because client A got there<br>
first (exchange servers don't like having a NBU client name that is<br>
different from their real name).<br>
<br>
The ONLY downside I have come across when using FQDN is when you work<br>
heavily in the CLI. &nbsp;It does get tiresome when typing a long FQDN
on the<br>
commandline to do a bplist or some other activity, but knowing the<br>
clients are unique helps a lot. &nbsp;This can also be mitigated quite
a bit<br>
with scripting and other looping activities off of bpplclients, anyway.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
David Rock<br>
david AT graniteweb DOT com<br>
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