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[Veritas-bu] LTO3 Tape Drives and LTO2 media - no improvement

2006-03-28 07:18:44
Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 Tape Drives and LTO2 media - no improvement
From: simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net (WEAVER, Simon)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:18:44 +0100
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The response Paul made was almost identiucal to what I said a while back=
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Simon Weaver
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EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598=0D

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McD [mailto:jim222mcd AT gmail DOT com]=0D
Sent: 28 March 2006 12:11
To: Paul Keating
Cc: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 Tape Drives and LTO2 media - no improvement


Hi=0D

That's exactly what we did - the same hcart type.   Similarey when we get
LTO3 media then we will differentiate.  Early day(s).

Cheers Jim=0D



On 3/28/06, Paul Keating <pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca
<mailto:pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca> > wrote:=0D

Yes, Jim, that has been my experience.
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We put our new LTO3 drives in the same robot as our existing LTO3 drives,
and all media is LTO2, all drives and media are configured as "HCART2"
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If they are not configured the same, (ie, you configure HCART2=3DLTO2 and
HCART3=3DLTO3) NBU will not put an LTO2 tape in an LTO3 drive.
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the idea is to maintina backward compatibility....the LTO3 drive writes to
the LTO2 tape as if it were an LTO2 drive, so that if the tape is later
inserted into an LTO2 drive it will continue to be able to be read from and
written to.
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once you add LTO3 tapes, you then need to change the config of the LTO3
drives to type "HCART3" and make sure all LTO3 tapes inserted into the
library are configured the same, otherwise you will end up with all sorts=
 of
problems when NBU puts a LTO3 tape in an LTO2 drive.

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Paul

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 Tape Drives and LTO2 media - no improvement


Hi

Is this correct ?
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My understanding is when LTO-2 tapes are put into a LTO3 tape drive the=
 tape
drive takes on all the attributes of an LTO2 tape drive hence transfer
rates, density, etc are identical to an LTO2 tape drive.  Hence in a=
 library
you can have mixed LTO-3 & LTO2 tape drives and if all the media is LTO2
media then you will see no difference.   Only when you start using LTO3
media then things will get better for both backup and recovery. =0D

Apparently LTO-3 tapes have a smart-card type of chip in them.=0D

Regards Jim=0D



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<DIV><SPAN class=599041712-28032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The 
response Paul made was almost identiucal to what I said a while back 
:-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon 
Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows Domain Administrator</FONT></B><FONT 
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS 
Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Tel: 02392-70</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Email: 
Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> 
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jim McD 
  [mailto:jim222mcd AT gmail DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 28 March 2006 
  12:11<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Keating<BR><B>Cc:</B> 
  Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Veritas-bu] 
LTO3 
  Tape Drives and LTO2 media - no improvement<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hi 
  <BR><BR>That's exactly what we did - the same hcart type.&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Similarey when we get LTO3 media then we will differentiate.&nbsp; Early 
  day(s).<BR><BR>Cheers Jim <BR><BR><BR>
  <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 3/28/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Paul 
  Keating</B> &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca">pkeating AT 
bank-banque-canada DOT ca</A>&gt; 
  wrote:</SPAN>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote 
  style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: 
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
    <DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr">
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>Yes, Jim, that has been my 
    experience.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>We put our new LTO3 drives 
    in the same robot as our existing LTO3 drives, and all media is LTO2, all 
    drives and media are configured as "HCART2"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>If they are not configured 
    the same, (ie, you configure HCART2=LTO2 and HCART3=LTO3) NBU will not put 
    an LTO2 tape in an LTO3 drive.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>the idea is to maintina 
    backward compatibility....the LTO3 drive writes to the LTO2&nbsp;tape as if 
    it were an LTO2 drive, so that if the tape is later inserted into an LTO2 
    drive it will continue to be able to be read from and written 
    to.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>once you add LTO3 tapes, 
    you then need to change the config of the LTO3 drives to type "HCART3" and 
    make sure all LTO3 tapes inserted into the library are configured the same, 
    otherwise you will end up with all sorts of problems when NBU puts a LTO3 
    tape in an LTO2 drive.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr"><SPAN class=sg>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr"><SPAN class=e id=q_10a3be71b4133b85_2>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(128,0,0) 2px 
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original 
      Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A 
      onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
      href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu" 
      target=_blank>veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A> 
[mailto:<A 
      onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
      href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu" 
      target=_blank>veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A>] <B>On 
Behalf Of 
      </B>Jim McD<BR><B>Sent:</B> March 26, 2006 7:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A 
      onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
      href="mailto:Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu" 
      target=_blank>Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> 
      [Veritas-bu] LTO3 Tape Drives and LTO2 media - no 
      improvement<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hi<BR><BR>Is this correct 
      ?<BR>&nbsp;<BR>My understanding is when LTO-2 tapes are put into a LTO3 
      tape drive the tape drive takes on all the attributes of an LTO2 tape 
      drive hence transfer rates, density, etc are identical to an LTO2 tape 
      drive.&nbsp; Hence in a library you can have mixed LTO-3 &amp; LTO2 tape 
      drives and if all the media is LTO2 media then you will see no 
difference. 
      &nbsp; Only when you start using LTO3 media then things will get better 
      for both backup and recovery.&nbsp; <BR><BR>Apparently LTO-3 tapes have a 
      smart-card type of chip in them. <BR><BR>Regards Jim 
    
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