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[Veritas-bu] on the subject of disk based backups....

2006-03-23 10:59:33
Subject: [Veritas-bu] on the subject of disk based backups....
From: andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com (andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:59:33 +0000
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Yeah, for me the biggest weakness of the NBU DSSUs.





"Paul Keating" <pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca>
23/03/2006 15:48

 
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excellent info...Now that you mention it....my one small DSSU I have 
configured to offload to a specific tape pool, so I should have known 
that.
That definately sways me in the direction of VTL then.
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Hi Paul, 

  from my experience what you say about DSSU is incorrect, a single DSSU 
cannot stage the data off to multiple tape tape pools - if you have a 
requirement to stage to different tape pools you need to have a at least 
one DSSU per tape pool, 

                cheers Andy. 





"Paul Keating" <pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca> 
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I'm also interested in thoughts regarding VTL vs DSSU. 
DSSU interests me mostly because I can write multiple jobs at once without 
any regard for tape pool, mpx or not, retention, etc..... 
...then it all gets sorted out to appropriate tapes during the destaging 
VTL still presents itself to NBU as a tape, so each virtual tape drive 
must be licensed with Veritas, in additional to the physical tape drives 
(unless the VTL is run inline, though there could be issues there 
regarding estimated compression, etc.) 
Just a couple things off the top of my head. 
Just wondering who is using DSSU, adn who is using VTL, adn why you made 
that choice....ie.what were the key requirements for your environment that 
made one option better than the other. 
Paul 


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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Yeah, for me the biggest weakness of the NBU 
DSSUs.</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=#800000 face="Arial">excellent info...Now that you 
mention it....my one small DSSU I have configured to offload to a specific tape 
pool, so I should have known that.</font>
<br><font size=2 color=#800000 face="Arial">That definately sways me in the 
direction of VTL then.</font>
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To:</b> Paul Keating<b><br>
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Hi Paul,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
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 &nbsp;from my experience what you say about DSSU is incorrect, a single DSSU 
cannot stage the data off to multiple tape tape pools - if you have a 
requirement to stage to different tape pools you need to have a at least one 
DSSU per tape pool,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
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 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;cheers 
Andy.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
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I'm also interested in thoughts regarding VTL vs DSSU.</font><font size=3 
face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<p><font size=2 face="Arial">DSSU interests me mostly because I can write 
multiple jobs at once without any regard for tape pool, mpx or not, retention, 
etc.....</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<p><font size=2 face="Arial">...then it all gets sorted out to appropriate 
tapes during the destaging</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<p><font size=2 face="Arial">VTL still presents itself to NBU as a tape, so 
each virtual tape drive must be licensed with Veritas, in additional to the 
physical tape drives (unless the VTL is run inline, though there could be 
issues there regarding estimated compression, etc.) </font>
<p><font size=2 face="Arial">Just a couple things off the top of my 
head.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<p><font size=2 face="Arial">Just wondering who is using DSSU, adn who is using 
VTL, adn why you made that choice....ie.what were the key requirements for your 
environment that made one option better than the other.</font><font size=3 
face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<p><font size=2 face="Arial">Paul</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> 
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