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Andy / Phil
Well you could be seeing growth due to retentions perhaps? Ie: Infinite? or
1 year retentions?
More and more backups running per day
More Full backups taking place each week (ie 2-3 times a week).
Some answers to think about :-)
Phil, Andy is right, please think of the Catalog as the heart of Netbackup -
some people will of course refer to this as the Database, but it simple is a
collection of image files. Within these files contains the data that was
backed up to take - sort of like a pointer that Netbackup uses to know where
the Data is stored for which client, which data, which file and of course
what media :-)
Best thing to do - Let Netbackup manage the Catalog - If you are running low
on space, then look at adding additional disk(s) and expand your volume, or
delete your current volume, create a new larger one and use bprecover to
bring it all back.
Remember, Netbackup (should!!) compress images for you, right after the
regular backups have run.
Take a look at this http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/238066.htm
<http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/238066.htm>
Hope this has helped!
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net
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From: andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com [mailto:andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT
com]
Sent: 21 March 2006 17:24
To: Stockton, Phil; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Question
Hi Phil,
you have over estimated the complexity of the NBU catalog, the image
catalog is not a real database, its a filesystem structure containing a
large number of monolithic binary files for each backup images stored - so
there is no way the catalog can become fragmented as it isnt composed of
real database files like Oracle etc. When an image is expired the
corresponding file from the catalog filesystem is removed thereby freeing
space.
As to why you see growth, couldn't tell you sorry......
thanks Andy.
"Stockton, Phil" <Phil.Stockton AT rs-components DOT com>
Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
21/03/2006 15:51
To: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
cc:
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog Question
Hi Everybody,
Netbackup 5.0 MP3 on Solaris 8. Clients are a mixture of Windows, NT and
2000 and Unix Solaris.
I'm aware of the ability to compress/cleanup images etc via the bpimage
command but have a question regarding how this works.
When images are expired/deleted from the catalog, is there any way to reorg.
the catalog so that fragmentation within the catalog is minimised.
Our catalog is 50 gb and growing with no increase in the numbers of clients.
I accept that the number of files per client is increasing but not
materially. Is there something we've missed configuration wise here?
Regards
Phil
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<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Andy
/
Phil</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Well
you could be seeing growth due to retentions perhaps? Ie: Infinite? or 1 year
retentions?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>More
and more backups running per day</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>More
Full backups taking place each week (ie 2-3 times a week).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Some
answers to think about :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Phil,
Andy is right, please think of the Catalog as the heart of Netbackup -
some
people will of course refer to this as the Database, but it simple is a
collection of image files. Within these files contains the data that was backed
up to take - sort of like a pointer that Netbackup uses to know where the Data
is stored for which client, which data, which file and of course what media
:-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Best
thing to do - Let Netbackup manage the Catalog - If you are running low on
space, then look at adding additional disk(s) and expand your volume, or delete
your current volume, create a new larger one and use bprecover to bring it all
back.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Remember, Netbackup (should!!) compress images for you, right after the
regular backups have run.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Take
a
look at this <A
href="http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/238066.htm";>http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/238066.htm</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=070395606-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hope
this has helped!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows Domain Administrator</FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS
Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Tel: 02392-70</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Email:
Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com [mailto:andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT
com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 21 March 2006 17:24<BR><B>To:</B> Stockton, Phil;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Veritas-bu]
Catalog
Question<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Hi Phil,</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2> you have over estimated the
complexity of the NBU catalog, the image catalog is not a real database, its
a
filesystem structure containing a large number of monolithic binary files for
each backup images stored - so there is no way the catalog can become
fragmented as it isnt composed of real database files like Oracle etc. When
an
image is expired the corresponding file from the catalog filesystem is
removed
thereby freeing space.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>As to why you
see growth, couldn't tell you sorry......</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif
size=2>
thanks Andy.</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>"Stockton, Phil"
<Phil.Stockton AT rs-components DOT com></B></FONT> <BR><FONT
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veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>21/03/2006 15:51</FONT> <BR></P>
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog
Question</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Hi
Everybody,</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Netbackup 5.0 MP3 on Solaris 8. Clients are
a
mixture of Windows, NT and 2000 and Unix Solaris.</FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm aware of the ability to compress/cleanup
images
etc via the bpimage command but have a question regarding how this
works.</FONT>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>When images are expired/deleted from the catalog,
is there any way to reorg. the catalog so that fragmentation within the
catalog is minimised. </FONT>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our catalog is 50 gb and growing with no increase
in the numbers of clients. I accept that the number of files per
client is increasing but not materially. Is there something we've
missed
configuration wise here?</FONT>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>
</FONT>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Phil</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"
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