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Hi Dean
But it is not the easiest method to fix the minor error. The tapes are OK,
the data / images are ok - bpexpdate is the fastest way - there are more
than just one tape to duplicate.
Thanks anyhow :-)
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net
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From: Dean [mailto:dean.deano AT gmail DOT com]
Sent: 08 March 2006 00:25
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] should you move live media to a new pool - tho
ughtit woudl fail
Simon,
Bob already mentioned the easiest way to fix this. Just duplicate the images
to the pool you want them in, then expire the original copy of those images.
(bpexpdate -backupid xxxxx -d 0 -copy 1)
Cheers,
Dean
On 3/7/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net
<mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> > wrote:
Monte
But why bother?? That's a lot of effort to move tapes - they may as well
stay where they are, and increase the expiry time :-)
I just wanted to be sure there was no "easy" method to do this!
Thanks
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium.eads DOT net>
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From: Ambrose, Monte [mailto:mambrose AT qualcomm DOT com
<mailto:mambrose AT qualcomm DOT com> ]
Sent: 06 March 2006 18:20
To: WEAVER, Simon; dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net <mailto:dave.markham AT
fjserv DOT net>
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
<mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] should you move live media to a new pool -
thoughtit woudl fail
Actually
You can completely move a media to a new pool. You would need to involve
VERITAS tech support or consulting since the mediaDB entry must be deleted
and the only way to add it back is to use engineering tools that tech
support and consulting will not give out (NBCC - NetBackup
Catalog Check and mediadbadd). VERITAS consulting has a great service
that will use NBCC to validate all of your catalogs, do any moves and
clean up any inconsistencies.
As mentioned before you would also need to unassign the media, move to a new
pool and then reassign the media.
Monte
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<mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu> ] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon
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Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] should you move live media to a new pool -
thoughtit woudl fail
Dave
That is EXACTLY what I told them!! (people who know better!!)
Sure this was the case, but my understanding is this:
1) When a Media ID (or volume if you want to call it that) is assigned to a
Volume Pool, its stuck there
2) The Volume will STAY here until its expired or manually expired or
deassigned
3) There are valid images on the media - trying to deassign could lose them
(or cause issues)
4) Should plan better when using Volume Poole
Any comments welcome
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium.eads DOT net>
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Markham [mailto:dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net
<mailto:dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net> ]
Sent: 06 March 2006 13:56
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
<mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu> '
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] should you move live media to a new pool -
thoughtit woudl fail
I don't think you can change volume pools of a tape if it has images on it.
It normally needs to be expired first, which of course will mean it can be
re-used.
Dave
WEAVER, Simon wrote:
> Hi
> Could I get clarification? If I ran a Month end backup with a 1 year
> retention, but it accidently directed into a wrong volume pool, am I
> right in saying it cannot be moved?
>
> I thought if you deassigned a media ID from a volume, Netbackup would
> forget about it and treat it as a new tape?? Clarification please if
> you could :-) Thanks
>
>
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<DIV><SPAN class=469395706-09032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=469395706-09032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>But
it
is not the easiest method to fix the minor error. The tapes are OK, the data /
images are ok - bpexpdate is the fastest way - there are more than just one
tape
to duplicate.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=469395706-09032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=469395706-09032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks
anyhow :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon
Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows Domain Administrator</FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS
Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dean
[mailto:dean.deano AT gmail DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 08 March 2006
00:25<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon<BR><B>Cc:</B>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Veritas-bu]
should
you move live media to a new pool - tho ughtit woudl fail<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Simon,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob already mentioned the easiest way to fix this. Just duplicate the
images to the pool you want them in, then expire the original copy of those
images. (bpexpdate -backupid xxxxx -d 0 -copy 1)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
<DIV>Dean<BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 3/7/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>WEAVER,
Simon</B> <<A
href="mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net">simon.weaver AT
astrium.eads DOT net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px
solid"><BR>Monte<BR>But
why bother?? That's a lot of effort to move tapes - they may as
well<BR>stay
where they are, and increase the expiry time :-) <BR><BR>I just wanted to
be
sure there was no "easy" method to do this!<BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Simon
Weaver<BR>Technical Support<BR>Windows Domain Administrator<BR><BR>EADS
Astrium<BR>Tel: 02392-708598<BR><BR>Email: <A
href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net">Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium.eads DOT net</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Ambrose, Monte [mailto:<A
href="mailto:mambrose AT qualcomm DOT com">mambrose AT qualcomm DOT
com</A>]<BR>Sent: 06
March 2006 18:20<BR>To: WEAVER, Simon; <A
href="mailto:dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net">dave.markham AT fjserv DOT
net</A><BR>Cc: <A
href="mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A><BR>Subject:
RE: [Veritas-bu] should you move live media to a new pool - <BR>thoughtit
woudl fail<BR><BR><BR>Actually<BR><BR>You can completely move a media to a
new pool. You would need to involve<BR>VERITAS tech support or
consulting since the mediaDB entry must be deleted<BR>and the only way to
add it back is to use engineering tools that tech <BR>support and
consulting
will not give out (NBCC - NetBackup<BR>Catalog Check and
mediadbadd). VERITAS consulting has a great service<BR>that
will
use NBCC to validate all of your catalogs, do any moves and<BR>clean up any
inconsistencies. <BR><BR>As mentioned before you would also need to
unassign
the media, move to a new<BR>pool and then reassign the
media.<BR><BR>Monte<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu">veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A><BR>[mailto:<A
href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu">veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A>]
On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon<BR>Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:00 AM <BR>To:
'<A
href="mailto:dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net">dave.markham AT fjserv DOT
net</A>'<BR>Cc:
'<A
href="mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A>'<BR>Subject:
RE: [Veritas-bu] should you move live media to a new pool - <BR>thoughtit
woudl fail<BR><BR><BR>Dave<BR>That is EXACTLY what I told them!! (people
who
know better!!)<BR><BR>Sure this was the case, but my understanding is
this:<BR><BR>1) When a Media ID (or volume if you want to call it that) is
assigned to a <BR>Volume Pool, its stuck there<BR>2) The Volume will STAY
here until its expired or manually expired or<BR>deassigned<BR>3) There are
valid images on the media - trying to deassign could lose them<BR>(or cause
issues)<BR>4) Should plan better when using Volume Poole<BR><BR>Any
comments
welcome<BR><BR>Simon Weaver<BR>Technical Support<BR>Windows Domain
Administrator<BR><BR>EADS Astrium<BR>Tel: 02392-708598<BR><BR>Email: <A
href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net">Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium.eads DOT net</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Dave Markham [mailto:<A
href="mailto:dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net">dave.markham AT fjserv DOT
net</A>]<BR>Sent:
06 March 2006 13:56<BR>To: WEAVER, Simon <BR>Cc: '<A
href="mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A>'<BR>Subject:
Re: [Veritas-bu] should you move live media to a new pool -<BR>thoughtit
woudl fail<BR><BR><BR>I don't think you can change volume pools of a tape
if
it has images on it. <BR>It normally needs to be expired first, which of
course will mean it can be<BR>re-used.<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR>WEAVER, Simon
wrote:<BR>> Hi<BR>> Could I get clarification? If I ran a Month end
backup with a 1 year<BR>> retention, but it accidently directed into a
wrong volume pool, am I<BR>> right in saying it cannot be
moved?<BR>><BR>> I thought if you deassigned a media ID from a
volume,
Netbackup would<BR>> forget about it and treat it as a new tape??
Clarification please if <BR>> you could :-)
Thanks<BR>><BR>><BR>> *Simon Weaver*<BR>> *Technical
Support*<BR>> *Windows Domain Administrator*<BR>><BR>> */EADS
Astrium/*<BR>> */Tel: 02392-708598/*<BR>><BR>> *Email:
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