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[Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..

2006-01-24 15:11:25
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
From: joe AT joe DOT dk (Johnny Oestergaard)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:11:25 +0100
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I don't know anything about Linux, but in our installation I use Windows
2003 on my combined master/media server.

The server is a Dell 2850, 2 x 3,6 Ghz HT Xeon CPU's. I use 2 Emulex LP10000
HBA's to give me access to the SAN (2 connections to disk and 2 to tapes)
and one Qlogic HBA to connect to the library.

Connection to our LAN is at the moment 2 Gbit/s

The server feeds 4 STK9940B drives

Except for the LAN connection I really don't have any problems with
performance.

Daily backup volume is around 2,5 - 3,0 TB from 80-100 servers running
anything from NT 4.0 to Windows 2003, Exchange, SQL, SPS, BizTalk and God
knows what. I even have a bunch of VMware ESX servers.

After I migrate to NBU 6.0 I will add one extra media server and share the
drives using SSO.

 

Windows isn't the best operatingsystem for have I/O load, but I don't want
to migrate to Solaris because of the extra cost and also don't want to use
Linux because I am the only one who knows anything about Linux in our shop.
And we have to pay a lot more for a RedHat ES server licens then what we pay
for a Windows licens (NBU cost is the same for Windows and Linux)

 

>From all what I know about performance on an Intel box (or AMD) you would
get a decent performance out of any box now-a-days for NBU use.

I would go for a 4 CPU box using Xeon processors with 4 GB ram, some good
HBA's and some good NIC's if I had the money. But a 2 processor box as the
one I use can feed 4 drives in my installation without any real problem.

 

Even if my info is from Windows, I hope you can use it.

 

/johnny

 

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Hampus Lind
Sent: 24. januar 2006 20:05
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..

 

Hi,

 

We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as
OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance.

 

What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server
with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? 

We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time
though) to backup at one of our sites. 

 

Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? 

 

Thankful for advice,

MVH / Hampus Lind
Rikspolisstyrelsen
National Police Board
Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
E-mail: hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don&#8217;t know anything about =
Linux,
but in our installation I use Windows 2003 on my combined master/media =
server.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The server is a Dell 2850, 2 x 3,6 =
Ghz HT Xeon
CPU&#8217;s. I use 2 Emulex LP10000 HBA&#8217;s to give me access to the =
SAN (2
connections to disk and 2 to tapes) and one Qlogic HBA to connect to the
library.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Connection to our LAN is at the =
moment 2
Gbit/s<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The server feeds 4 STK9940B =
drives<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Except for the LAN connection I =
really don&#8217;t
have any problems with performance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Daily backup volume is around 2,5 =
&#8211;
3,0 TB from 80-100 servers running anything from NT 4.0 to Windows 2003,
Exchange, SQL, SPS, BizTalk and God knows what. I even have a bunch of =
VMware ESX
servers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>After I migrate to NBU 6.0 I will =
add one
extra media server and share the drives using =
SSO.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Windows isn&#8217;t the best
operatingsystem for have I/O load, but I don&#8217;t want to migrate to =
Solaris
because of the extra cost and also don&#8217;t want to use Linux because =
I am
the only one who knows anything about Linux in our shop. And we have to =
pay a
lot more for a RedHat ES server licens then what we pay for a Windows =
licens
(NBU cost is the same for Windows and =
Linux)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From all what I know about =
performance on
an Intel box (or AMD) you would get a decent performance out of any box
now-a-days for NBU use.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would go for a 4 CPU box using =
Xeon
processors with 4 GB ram, some good HBA&#8217;s and some good =
NIC&#8217;s if I
had the money. But a 2 processor box as the one I use can feed 4 drives =
in my
installation without any real problem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Even if my info is from Windows, I =
hope
you can use it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>/johnny<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=


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veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span =
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bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Hampus Lind<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 24. januar 2006 =
20:05<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] =
Master and
Media HW and OS..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DSV =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DSV =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We run all our master and media servers on HP =
PA-RISC
server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but =
also in
maintenance&#8230;</span></font><span lang=3DSV><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><span =
lang=3DSV><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What do you guys think about going from the =
above to powerful
INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? =
</span></font><span
lang=3DSV><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We have about 200 clients and (all full is =
about
~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. =
</span></font><span
lang=3DSV><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><span =
lang=3DSV><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anyone using this type of solution in DC =
env`s?
Recommendations?? </span></font><span lang=3DSV><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thankful for advice,</span></font><span =
lang=3DSV><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DSV
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>MVH / Hampus =
Lind<br>
Rikspolisstyrelsen<br>
National Police Board<br>
Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43<br>
Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66<br>
E-mail: <a =
href=3D"mailto:hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT se">hampus.lind AT rps.police DOT 
se</a></=
span></font><span
lang=3DSV><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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