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Thank you Jim for the clarification - yes I razzled through my nbu pdf
documents again, and wondered from the BPEXPDATE command the value backupID
was referring to MEDIA ID - and found that his way of saying things was
different to how I understood it!
I truly apprecaite EVERYONES help - This list is REALLY fantastic, not only
for troubleshoting, but just for those little niggly things you did not
think about when doing training (and never came up on training) !!
Thank you
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net
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From: Jim Peppas [mailto:perf AT peppas DOT gr]
Sent: 13 January 2006 14:56
To: WEAVER, Simon; Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] URGENT CLARIFITION -= Help
Hi.
You are most probably saying the same thing with different words. You say
images , he says session.
You can change the expiration date of an image with bpexpdate, and this will
most probably change the expiration date of the whole tape(s).
Dont forget that you can have many images on a tape that have run on
different days. The tape will expire when ALL the images on the tape expire.
So you might have a backup that ran on 1/1/2006 with 2 weeks retension and a
second backup that ran on 8/1/2006 with the same retension. The fisrt backup
will expire on 14/1/2006 but the tape will expire on 21/1/2006.
bpexpdate will show the date that the TAPE will expire, but you may have
many images on the tape that will expire before this. You can see when the
images on a tape expire from the "Images on Media" report.
Regards,
Jim
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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:39 PM
To: 'Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] URGENT CLARIFITION -= Help
Guys
I wonder if you can help clarify something for me................
I have been asked to ensure a backup SESSION does not expire on the 17th Jan
06 - Today is the 13th Jan 06
Now, when I checked this policy, there are 2 tapes in a volume pool - the
guy asking me the question keeps referring to retaining a SESSION !!! Now, I
can see the tape is due to expire in 2 weeks time, but this is not
acceptable!
Is it possible, he is seeing something different to what I am? He truly
beleives that a backup will expire on the 17th!
I checked BPEXPDATE and you can specify a date for media and / or backup id
- I wonder if backup id is related to images?
Can I have an image that will expire BEFORE a tape? I guess it could?? If I
could have clarification, would truly apprecaite it
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net
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<DIV><SPAN class=720260115-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thank
you Jim for the clarification - yes I razzled through my nbu pdf documents
again, and wondered from the BPEXPDATE command the value backupID was referring
to MEDIA ID - and found that his way of saying things was different to how I
understood it!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720260115-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720260115-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
truly apprecaite EVERYONES help - This list is REALLY fantastic, not only for
troubleshoting, but just for those little niggly things you did not think about
when doing training (and never came up on training) !!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720260115-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720260115-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thank
you</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon
Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows Domain Administrator</FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS
Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Tel: 02392-70</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Email:
Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jim Peppas
[mailto:perf AT peppas DOT gr] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 January 2006
14:56<BR><B>To:</B>
WEAVER, Simon; Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE:
[Veritas-bu] URGENT CLARIFITION -= Help<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>You are most probably saying the same thing with
different words. You say images , he says session.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>You can change the expiration date of an image with
bpexpdate, and this will most probably change the expiration date of the
whole
tape(s).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dont forget that you can have many images on a tape that
have run on different days. The tape will expire when ALL the images on the
tape expire. So you might have a backup that ran on 1/1/2006 with 2 weeks
retension and a second backup that ran on 8/1/2006 with the same retension.
The fisrt backup will expire on 14/1/2006 but the tape will expire on
21/1/2006.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>bpexpdate will show the date that the TAPE will expire,
but you may have many images on the tape that will expire before this. You
can
see when the images on a tape expire from the "Images on Media"
report.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=368234814-13012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn
DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>WEAVER,
Simon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 13, 2006 3:39 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu]
URGENT
CLARIFITION -= Help<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Guys</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial size=2>I wonder if you
can help clarify something for me................</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been asked
to ensure a backup SESSION does not expire on the 17th Jan 06 - Today is the
13th Jan 06</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now, when I
checked this policy, there are 2 tapes in a volume pool - the guy asking me
the question keeps referring to retaining a SESSION !!! Now, I can see the
tape is due to expire in 2 weeks time, but this is not
acceptable!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is it possible,
he
is seeing something different to what I am? He truly beleives that a backup
will expire on the 17th!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial size=2>I checked
BPEXPDATE and you can specify a date for media and / or backup id - I wonder
if backup id is related to images?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083192313-13012006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can I have an
image that will expire BEFORE a tape? I guess it could?? If I could have
clarification, would truly apprecaite it</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon
Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff
size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows Domain Administrator</FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS
Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Tel: 02392-70</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Email:
Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial>
</FONT></SPAN></P>
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