[Veritas-bu] VTL vs. Disk based backups
2005-12-01 09:50:58
Nice thing about a SW solution like Falconstor is if you decide to drop
it, you stop paying for the license, and al you got left is a disposable
intel machine that can be redeployed, and bunch of SAN storage.
No proprietary HW investment.
Paul
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> Hindle, Greg
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> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VTL vs. Disk based backups
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> We are looking to phase out tape or most of it in the near future and
> move to more disk based backups and then using ILM or HSM to move data
> from higher end storage to lower end storage and then to tape (if
> needed) for long term storage. We have been looking a EMC and
> Falconstore. With EMC we will use new disks based on their module with
> Falconstore we will reuse some older disk storage array that
> we going to
> be removed. But the thinking now is to install a VTL with Falconstore
> and use our old Hitachi storage as the backup storage. Money Is not a
> issue here. What is the issue is that it must be easy to
> manage, and if
> needed, be able to be reused if we decide to move away form VTL in the
> future and not be stuck with something we cant use.
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>
> Greg
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
> william.d.brown AT gsk DOT com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL vs. Disk based backups
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> I think you have got to tell us a bit more about the issue you are
> trying to address.
>
> Are you looking to get rid of tape altogether? Or are you
> looking at
> alternatives as a primary backup, with a tape as secondary
> offsite copy?
>
> Could you use the ability of FalconStor and NetApps to clone data
> cross-site, do you have the WAN bandwidth, or do you have
> just one site?
>
> Are you just trying to fix slow clients?
>
> What kind of DR do you have to provide? - e.g you may absolutely need
> tapes ready to send to a DR site, with picking lists per
> application to
> suit your recovery priorities.
>
> Is EMC including Clariion or would using the EMC CDL mean supporting
> another disk array type?
>
> Do your NetApps have SnapMirror/SnapVault/OSSV?
>
> Do you have loads to spend? (you don't have to answer that...)
>
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> People who do this (and we don't...yet) have very different
> ways even of
> using VTLs. As Charles pointed out, NetApp and NBU 6 are
> designed to do
> some cool things.
>
> William D L Brown
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> We are looking at VTL technologies with EMC being the front leader. We
> are looking at upgrading to netbackup 6.0 Solaris 10 soon. My backup
> partner in crime disagree with the direction we should go. I think we
> should go with disk based backups and my partner want to go with VTL.
> Now since we do not have this in yet it is hard to look at both and
> "see" what is better. SO has anyone here also researching this subject
> and have their own opinion? We are a Netapp/EMC shop so the
> back disk is
> not the show stopper but the future of both technologies. Any care to
> share their views?
>
> Greg
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