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[Veritas-bu] Backuping Up Cluster 2003 Server

2005-11-08 10:45:29
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backuping Up Cluster 2003 Server
From: BarberL AT mont.disa DOT mil (BarberL AT mont.disa DOT mil)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:45:29 -0600
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Restoring data will work, but if you have to do a complete DR and restore
the entire cluster (server(s) and shared volumes) from tape, the volume
serials will be different (only need to be the same on the shared volumes)
if you reformat the existing shared volumes or go to new shared volumes.
Cluster software stores the vol serials and will not come up if they do not
match. (Make sense?)

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From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 09:37 AM
To: 'BarberL AT mont.disa DOT mil'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backuping Up Cluster 2003 Server


Well this is my sort of DR plan in the event of a failure
 
1 x restore Server from disk image (taken on a regular basis)
1 x restore the Data from Netbackup to the Virtual Friendly names
 
As a precaution, I also have been taking backups of the CLUSTER named C:
drives and system state!
 
As long as the Data can be restored, I would have thought this would work?

Simon 

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From: BarberL AT mont.disa DOT mil [mailto:BarberL AT mont.disa DOT mil] 
Sent: 08 November 2005 15:31
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backuping Up Cluster 2003 Server


Just remember, If you have a disaster on a cluster and do a DR, the volume
serial numbers for each volume must be the same after the DR as they were
when backed up, or the cluster will not come up. There is a tool from M$
that will allow you to get this info and change to serial numbers as needed.
We always had to document the serials and keep a copy of the doc offsite as
well as on site.

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
Simon
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 09:01 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backuping Up Cluster 2003 Server


Hi again
Does anyone have any experience on backing up a cluster with NBU 5.x ?
 
I have a question that I would like to get confirmed as being the correct
answer, in the event of problems restoring the cluster!
 
Basic setup
 
Windows 2003 Server Cluster is known as CLUSTER01. The Nodes are known as
Cluster02 and Cluster03 as physical computer names. On top of this, they
also have "Virtual Names" known to the users as "Data" and "Personal"
 
At the moment, I have the Netbackup client installed on Cluster02 and
Cluster03 (As this is the physical computer names of the Servers).
 
Now, what I have been doing is performing backups using the "Virtual Names".
This has been working fine, without too many issues.
 
However, my question is this: Should I also be doing backups of the Physical
Computer Names or not?
 
Not knowing clustering that well, I was not entirely sure if this is the
correct process, but it does work!
 
Would be grateful for any information on this. I want to be 100% sure that
in the event of a disaster, I can safely recover the node or worse case, the
entire cluster.
 
Thanks for any comments
 
Simon
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<DIV><SPAN class=433194215-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Restoring data will work, but if you have to do a complete DR and 
restore 
the entire cluster (server(s) and shared volumes)&nbsp;from tape, the volume 
serials will be different (only need to be the same on the shared volumes) if 
you reformat the existing shared volumes or go to new shared volumes. Cluster 
software stores the vol serials and will not come up if they do not match. 
(Make 
sense?)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> WEAVER, Simon 
  [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 
November 08, 
  2005 09:37 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'BarberL AT mont.disa DOT mil'; 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
  Backuping Up Cluster 2003 Server<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=392333415-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Well 
  this is my sort of DR plan in the event of a failure</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=392333415-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=392333415-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>1 x 
  restore Server from&nbsp;disk image (taken on a regular 
  basis)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=392333415-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>1 x 
  restore the Data from Netbackup to the Virtual Friendly 
  names</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=392333415-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=392333415-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As 
a 
  precaution, I also have been taking backups of the CLUSTER named C: drives 
and 
  system state!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=392333415-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=392333415-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As 
  long as the Data can be restored, I would have thought this would 
  work?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
  <P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon 
  </FONT></B></SPAN></P>
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    BarberL AT mont.disa DOT mil [mailto:BarberL AT mont.disa DOT mil] 
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 08 
    November 2005 15:31<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon; 
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
    Backuping Up Cluster 2003 Server<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=465582815-08112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Just remember, If you have a disaster on a cluster and do a DR, the 
    volume serial numbers for each volume must be the same after the DR as they 
    were when backed up, or the cluster will not come up. There is a tool from 
    M$ that will allow you to get this info and change to serial numbers as 
    needed. We always had to document the serials and keep a copy of the doc 
    offsite as well as on site.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
      face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
      veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
      [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of 
      </B>WEAVER, Simon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 08, 2005 09:01 
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
      [Veritas-bu] Backuping Up Cluster 2003 Server<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi 
      again</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Does anyone 
      have any experience on backing up a cluster with NBU 5.x 
      ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a 
      question that I would like to get confirmed as being the correct answer, 
      in the event of problems restoring the cluster!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Basic 
      setup</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Windows 2003 
      Server Cluster is known as CLUSTER01. The Nodes are known as Cluster02 
and 
      Cluster03 as physical computer names. On top of this, they also have 
      "Virtual Names" known to the users as "Data" and 
      "Personal"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>At the 
moment, 
      I have the Netbackup client installed on Cluster02 and Cluster03 (As this 
      is the physical computer names of the Servers).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now, what I 
      have been doing is performing backups using the "Virtual Names". This has 
      been working fine, without too many issues.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, my 
      question is this: Should I also be doing backups of the Physical Computer 
      Names or not?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Not knowing 
      clustering that well, I was not entirely sure if this is the correct 
      process, but it does work!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would be 
      grateful for any information on this. I want to be 100% sure that in the 
      event of a disaster, I can safely recover the node or worse case, the 
      entire cluster.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for 
any 
      comments</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=892405014-08112005><FONT face=Arial 
      size=2>Simon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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