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[Veritas-bu] cross mount points? NFS?

2005-11-01 15:56:38
Subject: [Veritas-bu] cross mount points? NFS?
From: pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca (Paul Keating)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:56:38 -0500
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That's not very helpful, since users can mount (and automount) NFS =
shares at will.
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Paul

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        Sent: November 1, 2005 1:19 PM
        To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] cross mount points? NFS?
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        Probably, try putting /mnt/filer/ in the exclude_list.
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[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Paul =
Keating
                Sent: 01 November 2005 17:41
                To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
                Subject: [Veritas-bu] cross mount points? NFS?
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                Ok, so most of my unix clients have multiple local volumes.
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                I backup "/" and check the "cross mount points" option.
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                I do NOT check "follow NFS".
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                in some testing, I've discovered that one client, with an NFS 
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from a NetApp filer, is backing up the NFS mounted volume.
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                the only wierd thing I can see as the cause for this is that, 
it is =
mounted on a symlink.
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                ie.
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                a dir exists called: /mnt/filer
                a file exists called /filer, which is a symlink to /mnt/filer.
                the volume is then mounted on /filer
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                if you do a df on the client, you see the volume on /filer
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                when browsing the backup, you see the symlink FILE called 
/filer, and =
you see the contents of the NAS volume under /mnt/filer.
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                Is mounting via the symlink tricking NBU into thinking the 
mount is =
NOT an NFS filesystem?
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                Paul

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D206065620-01112005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>That's=20
not very helpful, since users can mount (and automount) NFS shares at=20
will.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Patrick Whelan=20
  [mailto:Patrick.Whelan AT lchclearnet DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> November 1, =
2005 1:19=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Keating;=20
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
cross=20
  mount points? NFS?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><CODE><FONT=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D228291818-01112005><FONT =
color=3D#008080><STRONG><EM>Probably,=20
  try putting /mnt/filer/ in the =
exclude_list.</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><I><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Patrick=20
  Whelan</SPAN></I></B> <BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Enterprise =
Systems=20
  Support (NetBackup)</SPAN> <BR><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">LCHClearnet</SPAN> <BR><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">+44 020 7426 7624</SPAN> <BR=20
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  <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Those who give up essential liberties =
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  temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.</P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">~Benjamin Franklin</P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">=85 and by that time no one was left =
to speak=20
  up.</P>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">~Martin Niem=F6ller</P></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
    [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Paul=20
    Keating<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 November 2005 17:41<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu] =
cross=20
    mount points? NFS?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Ok, so most of=20
    my unix clients have multiple local volumes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I =
backup "/" and=20
    check the "cross mount points" option.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I =
do NOT check=20
    "follow NFS".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in =
some testing,=20
    I've discovered that one client, with an NFS mount from a NetApp =
filer,=20
    is&nbsp;backing up&nbsp;the NFS mounted volume.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>the only wierd=20
    thing I can see as the cause for this is that, it is mounted on a=20
    symlink.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>ie.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a =
dir exists=20
    called: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>/mnt/filer</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a =
file exists=20
    called /filer, which is a symlink to /mnt/filer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>the volume is=20
    then mounted on /filer</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if =
you do a df=20
    on the client, you see the volume on /filer</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>when browsing=20
    the backup, you see the symlink FILE called /filer, and you see the =
contents=20
    of the NAS volume under /mnt/filer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is =
mounting via=20
    the symlink tricking NBU into thinking the mount is NOT&nbsp;an NFS=20
    filesystem?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D206543417-01112005><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><CODE><FONT=20
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