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[Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library??????

2005-11-01 15:28:40
Subject: [Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library??????
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com (Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:28:40 -0700
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I think the postfix isn't important to Netbackup - It doesn't care past =
six
digits on the barcode (by default).
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I've heard some libraries make a deal out of it but our ADIC doesn't =
and,
IIRC, my past L700 didn't care either.
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-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Paul =
Keating
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:29 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library??????


Yup...figured that...could call them 1/4" for that matter, right?
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as long as you have a drive type and a media type that match?
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what's the use of the barcodes tagged with the type? like I have "L2"
postfix on all of my labels now (all LTO2 media)
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Something about the library determining the drive/media type?
Haven't looked into that much.
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I'm trying to convince the powers that be, that we should buy new media =
with
a new barcode range before we turn these drives up.....otherwise we'll =
get
all of our LTO2 media randomly inserted into the LTO3 drives, and then =
no
longer usable in the LTO2 drives.....a nightmare at best.
=20
Paul
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com]=20
Sent: November 1, 2005 1:08 PM
To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library??????


No problem with that.  That's the right way. =20
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By the way, LTO3=3D=3DHCART3 is just a convenience.  There's no =
coorelation
between the "3"'s in those names.  You could configure them as HCART =
(or
DLT2) for all Netbackup cares.  NB just matches the type in the VolDB =
with
the type on the STU.
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-M

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Paul =
Keating
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:33 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library??????


5.0
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already have multiple stu's, for another reason....not a problem there.
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Thanks to Samuel, I think I got what i needed.....will configure the =
drives
and media as different formats ( LTO2 -> HCART2  and LTO3 -> HCART3) =
and
create a new storage unit for the HCART3 format.
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anyone see a prob with that?

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From: Patrick Whelan [mailto:Patrick.Whelan AT lchclearnet DOT com]=20
Sent: November 1, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library??????


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What version of NetBackup are using? There was a bug in 4.5MP6 that =
didn't
allow multiple storage units for a media server from the GUI, you can =
still
do it from the command  line.
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-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Paul =
Keating
Sent: 01 November 2005 16:52
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] multiple tape format in one library??????


Is anyone using multiple tape/tape drive formats in one library with a
single media server?
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for example:
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one server, one library
some LTO2 drives, some LTO3 drives.
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how do you manage it? can't (from what I can tell) assign each type of =
drive
to a different storage unit (without a second media server).
Do you have both types of tapes, and let NBU assign jobs and tapes to =
drives
as it pleases?
=20
I want to avoid my LTO2 tapes being loaded into LTO3 drives and being
written so that they can no longer be used in an LTO2 drive.
=20
Also, I'd like to send slower (100mb/s) clients to LTO2 drives, and =
GigE
clients to LTO3, etc.
=20
best way I can see to do that is to add another library for the LTO3 =
drives,
so that there's a separate storage units with just those drives, OR add =
a
second media server, and configure zones to allow each media server to =
only
see one type of drive.
=20
=20
Paul



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<DIV><SPAN class=570092820-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
think the postfix isn't important to Netbackup - It doesn't care past six 
digits 
on the barcode (by default).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=570092820-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=570092820-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I've 
heard some libraries make a deal out of it but our ADIC doesn't and, IIRC, my 
past L700 didn't care either.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
</B>Paul 
  Keating<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
multiple 
  tape format in one library??????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2>Yup...figured that...could call them 1/4" for that matter, 
  right?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>as 
  long as you have a drive type and a media type that match?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2>what's the use of the barcodes tagged with the type? like I have "L2" 
  postfix on all of my labels now (all LTO2 media)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2>Something about the library determining the drive/media 
  type?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2>Haven't looked into that much.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>I'm 
  trying to convince the powers that be, that we should buy new media with a 
new 
  barcode range before we turn these drives up.....otherwise we'll get all of 
  our LTO2 media randomly inserted into the LTO3 drives, and then no longer 
  usable in the LTO2 drives.....a nightmare at best.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=034332619-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
  style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #800000 2px solid; 
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com] 
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 
    November 1, 2005 1:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Keating; 
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
    multiple tape format in one library??????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=681380618-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>No 
    problem with that.&nbsp; That's the right way.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=681380618-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=681380618-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>By 
    the way, LTO3==HCART3 is just a convenience.&nbsp; There's no coorelation 
    between the "3"'s in those names.&nbsp; You could configure them as HCART 
    (or DLT2) for all Netbackup cares.&nbsp; NB just matches the type in the 
    VolDB with the type on the STU.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=681380618-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=681380618-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
      veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
      [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
</B>Paul 
      Keating<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
      veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
      multiple tape format in one library??????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=456002917-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
      size=2>5.0</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=456002917-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=456002917-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
      size=2>already have multiple stu's, for another reason....not a problem 
      there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=456002917-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=456002917-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
      size=2>Thanks to Samuel, I think I&nbsp;got what i needed.....will 
      configure the drives and media as different formats ( LTO2 -&gt; 
      HCART2&nbsp; and LTO3 -&gt; HCART3) and create a new storage unit for the 
      HCART3 format.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=456002917-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=456002917-01112005><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
      size=2>anyone see a prob with that?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE 
      style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #800000 2px 
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV></DIV>
        <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
        face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Patrick 
        Whelan [mailto:Patrick.Whelan AT lchclearnet DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
November 
        1, 2005 12:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Keating; 
        veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
        multiple tape format in one 
        library??????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><CODE><FONT 
        
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        <DIV><SPAN class=165032717-01112005><FONT 
color=#008080><STRONG><EM>What 
        version of NetBackup are using? There was a bug in 4.5MP6 that didn't 
        allow multiple storage units for a media server from the GUI, you can 
        still do it from the command&nbsp; 
        line.</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV class=Section1>
        <P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><I><SPAN 
        style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Patrick Whelan</SPAN></I></B> <BR><SPAN 
        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Enterprise Systems Support (NetBackup)</SPAN> 
        <BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">LCHClearnet</SPAN> <BR><SPAN 
        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">+44 020 7426 7624</SPAN> <BR 
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        <P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Those who give up essential liberties 
for 
        temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.</P>
        <P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">~Benjamin Franklin</P>
        <P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
        <P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">... and by that time no one was left to 
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        <P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">~Martin Niemöller</P></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
          size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
          veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
          [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf 
Of 
          </B>Paul Keating<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 November 2005 16:52<BR><B>To:</B> 
          veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
[Veritas-bu] 
          multiple tape format in one library??????<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is anyone 
          using multiple tape/tape drive formats in one library with a single 
          media server?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>for 
          example:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>one 
          server, one library</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>some LTO2 
          drives,&nbsp;some LTO3 drives.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>how do 
you 
          manage it? can't (from what I can tell) assign each type of drive to 
a 
          different storage unit (without a second media 
          server).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Do you 
          have both types of tapes, and let NBU assign jobs and tapes to drives 
          as it pleases?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>I want to 
          avoid my LTO2 tapes being loaded into LTO3 drives and being written 
so 
          that they can no longer be used in an LTO2 drive.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also, I'd 
          like to send slower (100mb/s) clients to LTO2 drives, and GigE 
clients 
          to LTO3, etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>best way 
I 
          can see to do that is to add another library for the LTO3 drives, so 
          that there's a separate storage units with just those drives, OR add 
a 
          second media server, and configure zones to allow each media server 
to 
          only see one type of drive.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=659324416-01112005><FONT face=Arial 
          size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><CODE><FONT 
        
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