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[Veritas-bu] choice of master/media server platform

2005-10-25 22:50:50
Subject: [Veritas-bu] choice of master/media server platform
From: David_Cornely AT intuit DOT com (Cornely, David)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:50:50 -0700
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Well, I think it really depends on how much data you need to push to tape in
a given time frame and the growth you expect.

It is true that Sun leaves a bit to be desired in their rather low number of
high-speed buses (I suspect market forces determine that type of thing) but
if it meets your needs then I say stick with Sun.  We use a number of v440's
for media servers and spec'd them to push about 12TB a day with 4-6 hours to
spare.  This has been the case and the fiber connected drives we use operate
wonderfully in terms of speed across these buses.

 

I can say that in my experience tape drives in general are a lot less stable
on the Window's media servers that I've used, lots of ghost drives and
reboots are almost always part of fixing any little problem.  Stick with a
Unix media server if at all possible.

 

-Dave

 

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Guang Yu 
Liu
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 19:00
To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] choice of master/media server platform

 

Hi all, 
        I know there were some debates before regarding OS choices for NBU
but I'd like to ask one particular question. This was coming from an
external consultant.

        Background: I am a Unix guys so normally are biased towards
stability/flexibility etc of *nix. But the consultant told us that since
backups are mainly using I/Os, the buses should be an important deciding
factor as well. He went out and found that even the most expensive of Sun
servers tend to have PCI buses with 66MHZ only (most with 33MHZ) and most of
the Intel boxes have 133MHZ PCI buses. He strongly suggested that we pick
Windows for that.

        Your opinions? 

many thanks 
Guang 
Macquarie Telecom - delivering value for business and government. 
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well, I think it really depends on how
much data you need to push to tape in a given time frame and the growth you
expect.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is true that Sun leaves a bit to be
desired in their rather low number of high-speed buses (I suspect market forces
determine that type of thing) but if it meets your needs then I say stick with
Sun.&nbsp; We use a number of v440's for media servers and spec'd
them to push about 12TB a day with 4-6 hours to spare.&nbsp; This has been the
case and the fiber connected drives we use operate wonderfully in terms of
speed across these buses.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can say that in my experience tape
drives in general are a lot less stable on the Window's media servers
that I've used, lots of ghost drives and reboots are almost always part
of fixing any little problem.&nbsp; Stick with a Unix media server if at all
possible.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-Dave</span></font></p>

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[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span 
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bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Guang Yu Liu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, October 25, 2005
19:00<br>
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'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] choice of
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I know there were some debates
before regarding OS choices for NBU but I'd like to ask one particular
question. This was coming from an external consultant.</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Background:
I am a Unix guys so normally are biased towards stability/flexibility etc of
*nix. But the consultant told us that since backups are mainly using I/Os, the
buses should be an important deciding factor as well. He went out and found
that even the most expensive of Sun servers tend to have PCI buses with 66MHZ
only (most with 33MHZ) and most of the Intel boxes have 133MHZ PCI buses. He
strongly suggested that we pick Windows for that.</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Your
opinions?</span></font> </p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>many thanks</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span 
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Guang</span></font>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Macquarie
Telecom - delivering value for business and government.</span></font> <br>
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