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Hello,
Though not a turn key solution as Kate suggests, the integration of
iSCSI maybe something for you to consider.
I wanted to do something similar with a VLT and a CO-LO using iSCSI,
but management wasn't ready to invest in a relatively new architecture
without proven success stories. If your not familiar with iSCSI, the
below is not a bad place to start.
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci750136,00.html
I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has implemented a
VLT/VAULT process using iSCSI as well.
-sj
>>> Aleksandr Rainchik <rainchik AT mail DOT ru> 10/22/2005 12:05 am >>>
We are actually looking at VTL as a our "tape library" for Site A. And
yes,
some of those VTLs can replicate (over IP) in background. Too bad
NetBackup
does not know about those images/tapes that VTL replicated to off-site
location...
-----Original Message-----
From: "Greenberg, Katherine A" <GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com>
To: "Aleksandr Rainchik" <rainchik AT mail DOT ru>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:49:24 -0400
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Veritas-bu] Vaulting / duplication across network
> You also might want to take a look at a VTL that is more integrated
with
> your tape library. That way it can handle the offload functionality
> itself.
>
> Buy a solution, not a bunch of stuff you have to put together ;)
>
> ~Kate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
Greenberg,
> Katherine A
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:43 AM
> To: Aleksandr Rainchik
> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Veritas-bu] Vaulting / duplication across
network
>
>
>
> Yup makes sense.
>
> I've never been tasked with that particular issue and I don't think
I'd
> want to Vault over an IP link, but, you can probably set it up (I'm
sure
> someone will correct me if I'm wrong). Using the advanced
configuration
> options in the Vault settings, you can select a storage unit as
source
> and a storage unit as destination. You should be able to set Media
> server A STU as source and Media server B STU as destination.
>
> Best of luck :)
>
> ~Kate
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> <mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu> ] On Behalf Of
> Aleksandr Rainchik
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:30 PM
> To: Greenberg, Katherine A
> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re[2]: [Veritas-bu] Vaulting / duplication across network
>
>
> Kate,
>
> No, not exactly.
>
> Let's say we have two sites, Site A and Site B
>
> Here is how we do backup:
>
> Server A -> Media Server A -> Robot A -> Tape Drive A -> Tape A
>
> Here is how we want to do vault/duplication:
>
> Tape A -> Robot A -> Media Sever A -> [IP LINK(WAN)] -> Media Server
B
> -> Robot B -> Tape Drive B -> Tape B
>
> Backup image should be copied from Site A/ Robot A / Media Sever A
to
> different Site B / Robot B / Media Server B.
>
> Media servers A and B are connected to Robots A and B. Media Server
A
> does not have direct (FC) access to tapes on site B, there is only
IP
> link between sites.
>
> Does it make sense?
>
> -- Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Greenberg, Katherine A" <GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com>
> To: "Aleksandr Rainchik" <rainchik AT mail DOT ru>
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:08:15 -0400
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Vaulting / duplication across network
>
> > You can set it up so that you're doing an *Alternate Read server*
and
> > read the tapes that are written on the source media server on the
> > destination one so that the Vaulting is being done locally to one
> > host.
> >
> > Is that what you're looking for?
> >
> > ~Kate
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> <mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu> ] On Behalf Of
> > Aleksandr Rainchik
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:01 AM
> > To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Vaulting / duplication across network
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Just wondering if anyone has experience with running NetBackup
Vault
> > jobs where source tape drives are on one media server and
destination
> > tape drives are on different media server, so you are doing Vault
> > accross the network.
> >
> > We are looking into doing local backups to Virtual Tape library and
to
>
> > use NetBackup Vault to copy those images to an off-site
> > (real) tape library.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > _______________________________________________
> > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
> <http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu>
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
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> > you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the
> > sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately.
Thank
>
> > you. Aetna
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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<DIV>Hello,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Though not a turn key solution as Kate suggests, the integration of =
iSCSI maybe something for you to consider.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I wanted to do something similar with a VLT and a CO-LO using =
iSCSI, but management wasn't ready to invest in a relatively =
new architecture without proven success stories. If your not =
familiar with iSCSI, the below is not a bad place to start.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has implemented a =
VLT/VAULT process using iSCSI as well.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-sj<BR><BR>>>> Aleksandr Rainchik <rainchik AT mail DOT ru>
=
10/22/2005 12:05 am >>><BR><BR>We are actually looking at VTL as =
a our "tape library" for Site A. And yes,<BR>some of those VTLs can =
replicate (over IP) in background. Too bad NetBackup<BR>does not know =
about those images/tapes that VTL replicated to off-site <BR>location...<BR=
><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: "Greenberg, Katherine A" =
<GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com><BR>To: "Aleksandr Rainchik"
<rainchik@mail=
.ru><BR>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:49:24 -0400<BR>Subject: RE: Re[2]: =
[Veritas-bu] Vaulting / duplication across network<BR><BR>> You also =
might want to take a look at a VTL that is more integrated with<BR>> =
your tape library. That way it can handle the offload functionality<B=
R>> itself. <BR>> <BR>> Buy a solution, not a bunch of =
stuff you have to put together ;)<BR>> <BR>> ~Kate<BR>> =
; <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: veritas-bu-admin@=
mailman.eng.auburn.edu<BR>> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman DOT
eng.auburn.=
edu] On Behalf Of Greenberg,<BR>> Katherine A<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, =
October 19, 2005 8:43 AM<BR>> To: Aleksandr Rainchik<BR>> Cc: =
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR>> Subject: RE: Re[2]:
[Veritas-bu] =
Vaulting / duplication across network<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
Yup makes sense. <BR>> <BR>> I've never been tasked with that =
particular issue and I don't think I'd<BR>> want to Vault over an IP =
link, but, you can probably set it up (I'm sure<BR>> someone will =
correct me if I'm wrong). Using the advanced configuration<BR>> options =
in the Vault settings, you can select a storage unit as source<BR>> and =
a storage unit as destination. You should be able to set Media<BR>> =
server A STU as source and Media server B STU as destination.<BR>> =
<BR>> Best of luck :) <BR>> <BR>> ~Kate <BR>> <BR>> =
<BR>> -----Original Message----- <BR>> From: veritas-bu-admin@mailman=
.eng.auburn.edu<BR>> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu<BR>=
> <mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu> ] On Behalf =
Of<BR>> Aleksandr Rainchik<BR>> <BR>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, =
2005 8:30 PM <BR>> To: Greenberg, Katherine A <BR>> Cc: veritas-bu@ma=
ilman.eng.auburn.edu <BR>> Subject: Re[2]: [Veritas-bu] Vaulting / =
duplication across network <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Kate, <BR>> =
<BR>> No, not exactly. <BR>> <BR>> Let's say we have two sites, =
Site A and Site B <BR>> <BR>> Here is how we do backup: <BR>> =
<BR>> Server A -> Media Server A -> Robot A -> Tape Drive A =
-> Tape A <BR>> <BR>> Here is how we want to do vault/duplication:=
<BR>> <BR>> Tape A -> Robot A -> Media Sever A -> [IP =
LINK(WAN)] -> Media Server B<BR>> -> Robot B -> Tape Drive B =
-> Tape B <BR>> <BR>> Backup image should be copied from Site A/ =
Robot A / Media Sever A to<BR>> different Site B / Robot B / Media =
Server B. <BR>> <BR>> Media servers A and B are connected to Robots =
A and B. Media Server A<BR>> does not have direct (FC) access to tapes =
on site B, there is only IP<BR>> link between sites.<BR>> <BR>> =
Does it make sense? <BR>> <BR>> -- Alex <BR>> <BR>> -----Origin=
al Message----- <BR>> From: "Greenberg, Katherine A" <GreenbergKA@aet=
na.com> <BR>> To: "Aleksandr Rainchik" <rainchik AT mail DOT ru> =
<BR>> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:08:15 -0400 <BR>> Subject: RE: =
[Veritas-bu] Vaulting / duplication across network <BR>> <BR>> > =
You can set it up so that you're doing an *Alternate Read server* and =
<BR>> > read the tapes that are written on the source media server =
on the <BR>> > destination one so that the Vaulting is being done =
locally to one <BR>> > host. <BR>> > <BR>> > Is that =
what you're looking for? <BR>> > <BR>> > ~Kate <BR>> > =
<BR>> > <BR>> > -----Original Message----- <BR>> > From: =
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu <BR>> >
[mailto:veritas-bu-ad=
min AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR>> <mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT
mailman DOT eng.=
auburn.edu> ] On Behalf Of <BR>> > Aleksandr Rainchik <BR>> =
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:01 AM <BR>> > To: veritas-bu@=
mailman.eng.auburn.edu <BR>> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Vaulting / =
duplication across network <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > =
Hello, <BR>> > <BR>> > Just wondering if anyone has experience =
with running NetBackup Vault <BR>> > jobs where source tape drives =
are on one media server and destination <BR>> > tape drives are on =
different media server, so you are doing Vault <BR>> > accross the =
network. <BR>> > <BR>> > We are looking into doing local =
backups to Virtual Tape library and to<BR>> <BR>> > use NetBackup =
Vault to copy those images to an off-site <BR>> > (real) tape =
library. <BR>> > <BR>> > Thank you! <BR>> > _____________=
__________________________________ <BR>> > Veritas-bu maillist =
- Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu <BR>> >
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auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu<BR>> <http://mailman.eng.aubur=
n.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu> <BR>> > <BR>> > =
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> sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. =
Thank<BR>> <BR>> > you. Aetna <BR>> > <BR>> > =
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