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[Veritas-bu] Court No-destroy on backups
2005-10-18 14:59:01
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"infinite" for Netbackup is the end of the Unix epoch, 01/18/2038 22:14:07.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner AT water DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:50 AM
To: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com; bwindle AT wlgore DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Court No-destroy on backups
Being paranoid if it were me I'd do this AND make sure I put the tapes on
write-protect so no one accidentally overwrote them with tar or cpio.
Remember the commands noted below only impact the way Netbackup sees it.
Any other utility would be quite willing to overwrite the contents if not
write-protected.
You might want to get clarification on the no-destroy. Infinite retention
in Netbackup as I recall actually only means 8 years.
Also even if the tape is "expired" the data IS actually still on the tape so
unless its multiplexed you could restore it with tar.
_____
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:26 PM
To: bwindle AT wlgore DOT com; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Court No-destroy on backups
Freezing will prevent the data on the expired tape from being overwritten
but your catalog tracking for it is going to get whacked. You'd have to
import the tape to get it recreated. I'm with Kate on this, change the
expiration date. See the "bpexpdate" command for this.
-M
-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Bobby R
Windle
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:53 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Court No-destroy on backups
I have backups on media that have a retention policy I will exceed sooner or
later. I asked
our support vendor a year ago about how can I assure that the data and
catalog stuff will not
go away on me. They said all I need to do is do a bpmedia - freeze -m
VOLNAME. Is this true?
Will the catalog data stay as well?
Thanks
Bobby Windle
W.L. Gore & associates, Inc.
bwindle AT wlgore DOT com
cell : (302) 588-7374 (preferred)
office: (410) 506-4117 fax: (410) 506-4400
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<DIV><SPAN class=320495718-18102005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>"infinite" for Netbackup is the end of the Unix epoch, 01/18/2038
22:14:07.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jeff Lightner
[mailto:jlightner AT water DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 18, 2005
11:50
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com; bwindle AT wlgore DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
Court
No-destroy on backups<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Being paranoid if it
were me I'd do this AND make sure I put the tapes on write-protect so no one
accidentally overwrote them with tar or cpio. Remember the
commands noted below only impact the way Netbackup sees it. Any
other utility would be quite willing to overwrite the contents if not
write-protected.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You might want to
get
clarification on the no-destroy. Infinite retention in Netbackup
as I recall actually only means 8 years.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also even if the
tape
is "expired" the data IS actually still on the tape so unless its multiplexed
you could restore it with tar.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:26
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> bwindle AT wlgore DOT
com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Veritas-bu] Court
No-destroy on backups</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Freezing will
prevent
the data on the expired tape from being overwritten but your catalog tracking
for it is going to get whacked. You'd have to import the tape to get it
recreated. I'm with Kate on this, change the expiration date. See
the "bpexpdate" command for this.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">-M</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Bobby R
Windle<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:53
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] Court No-destroy
on backups</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I have backups on media
that have a retention policy I will exceed sooner or later. I
asked</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">our support vendor a year
ago about how can I assure that the data and catalog stuff will
not</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">go away on me. They said
all I need to do is do a bpmedia - freeze -m VOLNAME. Is this
true?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Will the catalog data stay
as well?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Thanks</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>Bobby Windle<BR>W.L.
Gore & associates, Inc.<BR>bwindle AT wlgore DOT com<BR>cell : (302)
588-7374
(preferred)<BR>office: (410) 506-4117 fax: (410)
506-4400</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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