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[Veritas-bu] restrict only one volume pool from returning expired media to Scratch.

2005-08-17 11:11:10
Subject: [Veritas-bu] restrict only one volume pool from returning expired media to Scratch.
From: tom.tschida AT guidant DOT com (Tschida, Tom (C)(STP))
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:11:10 -0500
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That would work, but I don't believe you need a separate media server.
You could put several of the drives into it's own storage unit group,
and then set up barcode rules related to that STU group.  Then assign
that STU group to the policy you're concerned about.

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Geyer,
Gregory
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:38 AM
To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] restrict only one volume pool from returning
expired media to Scratch.


IF you have a separate media server for this group and IF you have a
sophisticated robot you could possibly limit tape access to different
media servers.  In other words media server B can't see tapes that start
with 333, while media server A can't see tapes that start with 222.  So
tapes would return to scratch but wouldn't be picked up by competing
media servers.
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I am just theorizing as I don't know for sure if this would work for
you.  I'm looking at a similar issue, but with two masters sharing the
same ACS robotics.  But in that case there are two separate volume
databases, not one.

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Paul
Keating
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:36 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] restrict only one volume pool from returning
expired media to Scratch.


in general, I want all expired media to return to scratch for ease of
administration, etc.
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I have one application group that, due to some security requirements,
cannot have any tape returned to scratch once it's been assigned.
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basically, the data in this environment is protected, so once it is
written to tape, those tapes are considered "protected".
=20
Right now, according to policy, once a disk is "protected", that's the
end of the line......it's tagged protect for ever, even if it's
overwritten with unprotected data.
=20
So, I need to create a volume pool for this application group, and I
would prefer for this volume group to be able to pull tapes from
scratch, IF necessary, but never return them to scratch.
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If I understand correctly, netbackup will only release tapes back to
scratch, if they were pulled from scratch to begin with, so if I ensure
that this pool is provisioned manually, it will never pull from scratch,
and therefore never return tapes to scratch......this could be a
possible solution, but I'm worried about the occasion where the pool was
underprovisioned and pulled a tape from scratch....once expired, it
would go back to scratch.
=20
Paul

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[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of =
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Gregory<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Paul=20
Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
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restrict only one volume pool from returning expired media to=20
Scratch.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D875432514-17082005><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>IF you have a separate media server for this =
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different=20
media servers.&nbsp; In other words media server B can't see tapes that =
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with 333, while media server A can't see tapes that start with =
222.&nbsp; So=20
tapes would return to scratch but wouldn't be picked up by competing =
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servers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D875432514-17082005><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I am just theorizing as I don't know for sure =
if this would=20
work for you.&nbsp; I'm looking at a similar issue, but with two masters =
sharing=20
the same ACS robotics.&nbsp; But in that case there are two separate =
volume=20
databases, not one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Paul=20
Keating<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu] =
restrict only=20
one volume pool from returning expired media to =
Scratch.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in =
general, I want=20
all expired media to return to scratch for ease of administration,=20
etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have =
one=20
application group that, due to some security requirements, cannot have =
any tape=20
returned to scratch once it's been assigned.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>basically, the data=20
in this environment is protected, so once it is written to tape, those =
tapes are=20
considered "protected".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Right =
now, according=20
to policy, once a disk is "protected", that's the end of the =
line......it's=20
tagged protect for ever, even if it's overwritten with unprotected=20
data.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, I =
need to create=20
a volume pool for this application group, and I would prefer for this =
volume=20
group to be able to pull tapes from scratch, IF necessary, but never =
return them=20
to scratch.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I =
understand=20
correctly, netbackup will only release tapes back to scratch, if they =
were=20
pulled from scratch to begin with, so if I ensure that this pool is =
provisioned=20
manually, it will never pull from scratch, and therefore never return =
tapes to=20
scratch......this could be a possible solution, but I'm worried about =
the=20
occasion where the pool was underprovisioned and pulled a tape from=20
scratch....once expired, it would go back to =
scratch.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D043592916-16082005><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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