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[Veritas-bu] Backing up VMWare - best practices

2005-05-25 11:49:25
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up VMWare - best practices
From: jennifer.hooper AT peregrine DOT com (Jennifer Hooper)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:49:25 -0700
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I was too, but because it was going straight from disk to tape, they
supported it.  The SAN Media server will be doing JUST VMWare image backups,
and nothing else.  In addition, this is for Disaster Recovery purposes, not
for data integrity, which is why we are planning to back them up via both
methods.
 
Jen

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From: Marianne van den Berg [mailto:MarianneV AT LechabileSS.co DOT za] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:50 AM
To: Jennifer Hooper; Conner, Mike; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up VMWare - best practices


Hi
 
I'm surprised that your SE suggested SAN Media Servers - according to the
compatibility matrix: 

"VMware support is limited to supported NetBackup OS clients-only; NetBackup
Servers are not supported."

 
Regards
 
Marianne

-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Hooper [mailto:jennifer.hooper AT peregrine DOT com]
Sent: 24 May 2005 09:11
To: 'Conner, Mike'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up VMWare - best practices


Then they are fibbing to you.  What you need is a client for each VMWare
machine to back up the data.  I worked with a Veritas SE to design our
VMWare backups, and we are going with an agent for each machine, as well as
a Win2k3 SAN Media Server (on an IBM HS40 Blade $$$) and 5 SSO licenses to
suck down all of the VMWare dsk files from our EMC SAN straight to tape.
But you still need the VMWare licenses to back up changes and perform
incrementals.  As far as we know, VMWare machines cannot be backed up live,
and are designing some scripting possibilities to work with that.  And then
management said no way to the SAN backups, so we're doing it just with
clients.  We just did a full recovery of a VMWare system last night, and it
worked quite well. :)
 
Jennifer
 

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From: Conner, Mike [mailto:MConner AT imb DOT org] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:27 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up VMWare - best practices



Just curious if anyone is backing up any instances of VMWare clients.  We
have been told by Veritas that we can purchase one agent to backup all
instances.  VMWare is saying that we will need a client for each virtual
machine.  Anyone with any experience here have any info?

Thanks

Mike


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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=766194815-25052005><FONT face="Trebuchet 
MS" 
color=#000080 size=2>I was too, but because it was going straight from disk to 
tape, they supported it.&nbsp; The SAN Media server will be doing JUST VMWare 
image backups, and nothing else.&nbsp; In addition, this is for Disaster 
Recovery purposes, not for data integrity, which is why we are planning to back 
them up via both methods.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=766194815-25052005><FONT face="Trebuchet 
MS" 
color=#000080 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=766194815-25052005><FONT face="Trebuchet 
MS" 
color=#000080 size=2>Jen</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
<HR tabIndex=-1>
<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Marianne van den Berg 
[mailto:MarianneV AT LechabileSS.co DOT za] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 25, 
2005 
12:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jennifer Hooper; Conner, Mike; 
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Backing up 
VMWare - best practices<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=808434507-25052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Hi</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=808434507-25052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=808434507-25052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm 
surprised that your SE suggested SAN Media Servers - according to the 
compatibility matrix:</FONT> 
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=808434507-25052005>"</SPAN>VMware support is limited to supported 
NetBackup OS clients-only; NetBackup<SPAN class=808434507-25052005> 
</SPAN>Servers are not supported.<SPAN 
class=808434507-25052005>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=808434507-25052005></SPAN><SPAN class=808434507-25052005><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=808434507-25052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=808434507-25052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=808434507-25052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Marianne</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jennifer Hooper 
  [mailto:jennifer.hooper AT peregrine DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 24 May 2005 
  09:11<BR><B>To:</B> 'Conner, Mike'; 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Backing 
  up VMWare - best practices<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=106520519-24052005><FONT 
  face="Trebuchet MS" color=#000080 size=2>Then they are fibbing to you.&nbsp; 
  What you need is a client for each VMWare machine to back up the data.&nbsp; 
I 
  worked with a Veritas SE to design our VMWare backups, and we are going with 
  an agent for each machine, as well as a Win2k3 SAN Media Server (on an IBM 
  HS40 Blade $$$) and 5 SSO licenses to suck down all of the VMWare dsk files 
  from our EMC SAN straight to tape.&nbsp; But you still need the VMWare 
  licenses to back up changes and perform incrementals.&nbsp; As far as we 
know, 
  VMWare machines cannot be backed up live, and are designing some scripting 
  possibilities to work with that.&nbsp; And then management said no way to the 
  SAN backups, so we're doing it just with clients.&nbsp; We just did a full 
  recovery of a VMWare system last night, and it worked quite well. 
  :)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=106520519-24052005><FONT 
  face="Trebuchet MS" color=#000080 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=106520519-24052005><FONT 
  face="Trebuchet MS" color=#000080 size=2>Jennifer</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=106520519-24052005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
  <HR tabIndex=-1>
  <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Conner, Mike [mailto:MConner AT imb DOT 
org] 
  <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu] 
Backing up 
  VMWare - best practices<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=Section1>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just curious if anyone is backing 
  up any instances of VMWare clients.&nbsp; We have been told by Veritas that 
we 
  can purchase one agent to backup all instances.&nbsp; VMWare is saying that 
we 
  will need a client for each virtual machine.&nbsp; Anyone with any experience 
  here have any info?</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">Mike</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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