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[Veritas-bu] question about incremental vs full on multpile policies

2005-01-07 06:31:59
Subject: [Veritas-bu] question about incremental vs full on multpile policies
From: dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net (Dave Markham)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:31:59 +0000
This is great and i ran ITC last night after setting the multple copies 
section in the each schedule.

I have cope this morning and all backups have worked but when i try the 
bpduplicate command it says

INF - Skiing backup id <hostname>_<id>, it already has 2 copies


Any ideas how i can identify tapes used for the second copy last night?

Cheers
Dave



Tim Hoke wrote:

>Ok, Let me boil this down and see if I've got it right.
>
>Basically, you want two copies of data, need to identify which tapes 
>contain that second copy (or first, doesn't really matter) and be able to 
>run a script (i.e. set of commands) to identify which tapes an opperator 
>should eject and send offsite?
>
>This to me sounds like vault.
>
>Now, there's no reason you can't write your own vault, it's just more 
>elegent with the built in feature.
>
>So, assuming my analysis is correct, lemme throw this out to you.
>
>1. Use ITC and direct copy 2 to the "Offsite" Pool. This creates your 
>second copy and doesn't mess with the archive bits or have problems with 
>missing files based on time stamps.
>
>2. Now, identify which tapes were used that need to be ejected:
>bpduplicate -p -cn 2 -hoursago 18|grep ^Media |awk '{print $4}'
>
>As far as changing primary copy, it's really not all that hard.  It's as 
>simple as using the bpduplicate -npc command.  It's a very common thing 
>that people run.
>
>-Tim
>
>On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Dave Markham wrote:
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>>Tim Hoke wrote:
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>>>I'm going to avoid answering your question and ask a couple of my own.
>>>
>>>What version of NBU are you using?  Is there any chance you can make use 
>>>of Inline Tape Copy?  It would allow you to make two copies of the data in 
>>>a single backup cycle.  It also allows you to place the "duplicate" in a 
>>>different pool.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>>-Tim
>>>
>>>On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Dave Markham wrote:
>>>
>>> 
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>>>
>>>>Ok,
>>>>
>>>>I am running Netbackup on solaris 9 with 2 media servers about 22 unix 
>>>>clients and 7 windows200 clients.
>>>>
>>>>I have normal backups which run daily. ( Cinc ) and full backups at 
>>>>weekends.
>>>>
>>>>I have decided to copy my policies to Offsite_<policy> and change the 
>>>>volume pool on each schedule to be my offsite tape pools for cinc and full.
>>>>
>>>>Now my question is as all files, and clients are the same on the normal 
>>>>policy and my offsite policy what happens with the incrementals, i.e 
>>>>where do they take there times from for being incremental files.
>>>>
>>>>for e.g
>>>>
>>>>Pol1 ( normal ) full backup on sat
>>>>Pol1 ( normal ) inc on sunday will get files changed since saturday
>>>>
>>>>OffPol1 ( offsite ) full backup on sat
>>>>OffPol1 ( offsite ) inc on sunday . Will this get files changed sine 
>>>>OffPol1 full backup or could it maybe miss some out as they could be 
>>>>reset from Pol1 (normal) inc ???
>>>>
>>>>That make sense?
>>>>
>>>>Im a bit confused cant find much docs to explain it
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>>
>>>>Dave
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>>Yeah im using 5.0Mp3
>>
>>I have posted a few mails regarding using duplication, vs inline tape 
>>copy on here.
>>The problem is i need to identify each day which tapes were used for 
>>offsite and auto mail the operators to take those tapes out.
>>
>>The way i can easily do it with using a different policy and schedule 
>>for offsite is by using bpverify -p -sl offsite_inc -hoursago 18. I 
>>launch this from a script which wraps bits n bops around it and checks 
>>no jobs are still running or sleeps.
>>This then mails ops and they know which tapes to take out and i dont 
>>need to worry about it unless something goes wrong. I couldnt work how 
>>to identify tapes easily with the duplicate or inline tape copy method.
>>I could easily work out all tapes in the robot which are in the offsite 
>>pool so could identify that way, but then was wondering how to do a 
>>restore from these offsite tapes being a second copy.
>>I would need to change the copy netbackup tries to use for restore which 
>>gets messy, where as this way all these images are separate and so i 
>>just put offsite tapes in and select the image to restore from
>>
>>Make sense?
>>
>>Im just concerned about what gets backed up and incremental bits with 2 
>>inc's running.
>>
>>Dave
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