[Veritas-bu] Netbackup Reporting Software

2004-09-23 07:37:29
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Reporting Software
From: scoco AT DOT mil (Coco, Samuel (Cont, ARL/CISD))
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:37:29 -0400
We are using NBAR.  It has it's limitations.  In fact I was surprised
that the 'originator' of an application hasn't done better.  Setting up
was to bad, but if you're in any type of secured environment - check
ports and listening.  The reports that you can generate, both standard
and customer defined, are limited.

Thank you,
Samuel J. Coco, STG
Functional Area Manager, ARL
Sr UNIX Administrator
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-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:13 PM
To: Ed Wilts
Cc: Hall, Christian N.; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; John Meyers;
Bobby R Windle
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Reporting Software

This is great information... but is anyone using the Veritas provided 
reporting tools, like GDM, Command Central, or NBAR?

What are the 3rd party tools providing that these can't?

Gary Aulfinger
gja AT fedex DOT com

On Sep 20, 2004, at 11:33 AM, Ed Wilts wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 12:10:18PM -0400, Hall, Christian N. wrote:
>> How large is your environment? Was Bocada not scalable to what you
>> needed ?
> We've got a single Solaris master/media, a Windows media server, and 
> another Solaris media server.  We've got around 110 clients so far 
> backing up to an L700 robot with 8 SDLT220 drives.  We do from 
> 800-1000 jobs per day.  Typical backup volume size is 2-4TB per day.  
> This probably isn't large for some people here but huge compared to 
> others.
> BackupReport was very, very slow in part because of the way it polls 
> from the master server on a regular basis to get updates.  The 
> StorageConsole server gets its updates as each backup job completes. I

> had factored in the delays introduced by the slow SQL server we used 
> for our eval and still determined that we could not acceptable 
> response for the
> One of the other driving differences was Bocada's requirement to
> install
> a fat client whereas StorageConsole uses a browser interface.  With
> Bocada tech support on the phone helping me, it took about 3-4 hours
> install the client on my desktop (a fairly standard Win2K system) and
> required multiple reboots.  I couldn't imagine trying to roll this out
> to all the users who need access to the data.  I don't even know if
> non-Windows clients are available - some of our admins use HPUX and
> Solaris as their primary desktops.  Overall, the Bocada product worked
> (barely) and did have a few nice features (since added to
> StorageConsole) but there were enough downsides that we likely
> have purchased it even if StorageConsole wouldn't have whupped its 
> butt.
>         .../Ed
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org]
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:49 AM
>> To: John Meyers
>> Cc: Bobby R Windle; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Reporting Software
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:20:08AM -0400, John Meyers wrote:
>>> Bobby R Windle wrote:
>>>> Anyone no of any kind of Netbackup Reporting Software at a
>>>> reasonable
>>>> price?  I'm looking for something
>>>> that reports on clients as well as totals.  Files missed etc.   
>>>> Anything
>>>> but Advanced reporter!
>>>> thanks
>>>> bobby
>>>  Have you checked out Aptare?  Not 
>>> sure about the pricing, but the specs look pretty good.  Anyone 
>>> using this product care to comment on it?
>> We evaluated both Bocada's BackupReport and Aptare's StorageConsole
>> at the
>> same time.  Aptare wins in every category from installation, ease of 
>> use,
>> and vendor cooperation.  I started with BR and thought it was okay 
>> but not
>> great.  I then installed SC and the eval was effectively over - it 
>> wins
>> hands down.  We requested some features to be added to the product as

>> part
>> of the purchase agreement and they did a great job in supplying those
>> features in a reasonable time.  The rest of you Aptare customers can 
>> thank
>> me for a few of those :-)
>> The pricing models between Bocada and Aptare are quite different so
>> what's
>> cheaper for one customer could be more expensive for another.
>> The only way to know what you'll have to pay is to request a quote 
>> from
>> both.
>> --
>> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
>> mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org
> --
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org
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