How do you check for these jobs? Do you have a script, or just manually keep 
track of all failed jobs and go from there?

As a side note, I've seen NBU use the same tape again after it has failed. I 
think the key difference is that the tape did not fill up, so it had space to 
write to even with the 'phantom' data from the failed job.

Thanks,

Rusty

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnson, Lee - CIDS-2 [mailto:vljohnson AT bpa DOT gov]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:29 AM
> To: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com; nantel AT ecopiabio DOT com;
> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Expiring a single job on a single tape
> 
> 
> We have found the same thing. We have noticed also that the 
> media databases, if separate from the master server, will 
> retain data from failed jobs on tapes. We routinely check for 
> this and deassign and expire tapes each week.
> lee
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of
> Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:23 AM
> To: nantel AT ecopiabio DOT com; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Expiring a single job on a single tape
> 
> 
> I have no confirmation of this but I've always had the 
> sneaking suspicion
> that the fragments of a failed job still occupy the tape, but 
> are unusable,
> until that tape expires.
> 
> One option you have is to use bpduplicate to copy the good 
> image to a clean
> tape and then expire the original tape.
> 
> -M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Mathieu
> Nantel
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 9:17 AM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Expiring a single job on a single tape
> 
> 
> Ok. It looks like I can't expire the job because it's just not there.
> However, 
> there's this report generated by the available_media script that still
> claims 
> that the tape is full (if that job wasn't there anymore it wouldn't be
> full).
> 
> Excerpt:
> 
> [root@life admincmd]# available_media
> media   media   robot   robot   robot   side/   ret    size     status
>  ID     type    type      #     slot    face    level  KBytes
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------
> 
> ...
> 
> CHEM02  DLT      NONE     -       -      -       24     98482912
> ACTIVE
> CHEM01  DLT      TLD      0       4      -       24     
> 142478432       FULL
> 
> 
> The CHEM01 tape is the one with the bad image on. Is the 
> available_media 
> script broken???
> 
> Thanks to all who replied. Truly an helpful mailing list.
> 
> On Wednesday 16 June 2004 11:04 am, Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com wrote:
> > "bpimmedia -mediaid <tapenum>" will show you all images on 
> a specific tape
> > - you can check if NB is tracking this image.  "bpexpdate 
> -backupid <bkid>
> > -d 0 -force" will force expire that image if you need.
> >
> > -M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Mathieu
> > Nantel
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:38 AM
> > To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Expiring a single job on a single tape
> >
> >
> > Good day NBU admins,
> >
> > I started this backup job which didn't fit on the tape I 
> was trying to
> have
> > it
> > fit on (resulting in the job failing because it couldn't 
> load another
> > tape),
> >
> > and I would like to remove/expire the job in order to 
> recover the lost
> > space
> >
> > on that tape. Thing is, I can't expire the tape because 
> there is another
> > job
> >
> > on this tape that I cannot have expiring (it's an archive 
> job which is
> > marked
> > "infinite" expiration date).
> >
> > Is there a way in NBU Datacenter 4.5 to expire a single job 
> on a tape
> > without
> > expiring the whole tape?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Mat
> 
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