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[Veritas-bu] Disk based backups with Netbackup 4.5fp3

2003-10-17 03:53:07
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Disk based backups with Netbackup 4.5fp3
From: andrew.walker AT liberty.co DOT za (Andrew Walker)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:53:07 +0200
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Hi,

Thank you very much for your advice, I have configured the catalogue backup
to be done after the duplication of the images and it seems to be working
well at this time.

Thank you
Andrew Walker

  -----Original Message-----
  From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of 
Balasubramanian
Krishnamurthy
  Sent: 14 October 2003 23:18
  To: andrew.walker AT liberty.co DOT za; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu
  Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Disk based backups with Netbackup 4.5fp3


  I am not sure if u have catalog backups set up after vaulting.

  We have that set up and we noticed that the disk images would be removed
only after the vault finished a calalog backup.

  Bala Krishnamurthy



  -----Original Message-----
  From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Andrew 
Walker
  Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:52 AM
  To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
  Subject: [Veritas-bu] Disk based backups with Netbackup 4.5fp3



  Hi,



  I am currently investigating the theory of backing up images to disk and
then Vaulting them to tape once the backup has been completed using
Netbackup Vault.



  The process that I have been following in my test plan is as follows

  1) Manually initiate a backup to disk.

  2) Manually initiate the vaulting profile which duplicates the disk image
to tape and then forces expires the disk image in 1 hour.



  The first problem that I had was that after the hour the disk image
reflects that it should have expired, but the disk image was still present.
This could be see by the bpimagelist command for the client and a ctime
command against the EXPIRATION field in the client.f file.

  I have queried this with Veritas and the answer there is that this would
be a standard  process as the image will only clear when a nights schedule
ends, or I can implement a work around solution of a manual process of
creating the CLEAN_IN_BACKGROUND file and running the
bpimage -cleanup -allclients command to delete the expired
images.(TECHNOTE - 236274)



  I have tested the scheduling process as specified by Veritas by scheduling
everything but it seems that even though the image is set to expire, the
actual disk image will only clear once the scheduled backups have been run,
which in this case would be the next nights backup schedule.



  With the limited resources that I have I can not afford to hold two nights
images on disk.



  If there is anyone else who is following the same process, please can you
advise me on the process that you follow to backup the images to disk, vault
them to tape and then clear them in the shortest time possible.



  Thank you in advance.

  Andrew Walker





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<DIV><SPAN class=3D302175207-17102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D302175207-17102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D302175207-17102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff si=
ze=3D2>Thank=20
you very much for your advice, I have configured the catalogue backup to be=
 done=20
after the duplication of the images and it seems to be working well at this=
 time.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D302175207-17102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D302175207-17102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff si=
ze=3D2>Thank=20
you</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D302175207-17102003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff si=
ze=3D2>Andrew=20
Walker</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D302175207-17102003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTah=
oma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Balasubramanian Krishnamurthy<BR><B>Sent:</B> 14 October 2003=20
  23:18<BR><B>To:</B> andrew.walker AT liberty.co DOT za;=20
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Dis=
k=20
  based backups with Netbackup 4.5fp3<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3DArial color=
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  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"=
>I am=20
  not sure if u have catalog backups set up after vaulting.=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3DArial color=
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  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"=
>We=20
  have that set up and we noticed that the disk images would be removed onl=
y=20
  after the vault finished a calalog backup.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN=
></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3DArial color=
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>Bala=20
  Krishnamurthy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Andrew Walker<BR><B><=
SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:=
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  AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] Disk based b=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New=
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T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">I am=20
  currently investigating the theory of backing up images to disk and=20
  then&nbsp;Vaulting them to tape once the backup has been completed using=
   Netbackup Vault. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New=
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  color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">The=20
  process that I have been following in my test plan&nbsp;is as=20
  follows</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1)&nbsp;Manua=
lly=20
  initiate a backup to disk.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">2)=20
  Manually initiate the vaulting profile which duplicates the disk image to=
 tape=20
  and then forces expires the disk image in 1 hour.</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">The=20
  first problem that I had was that after the hour the disk image reflects =
that=20
  it should have expired, but the disk image was still present. This could =
be=20
  see by the bpimagelist command for the client and a ctime command against=
 the=20
  EXPIRATION field in the client.f file.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><=
SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">I have=20
  queried this with Veritas and the answer there is that this would be a=20
  standard&nbsp; process as the image will only clear when a nights schedul=
e=20
  ends, or I can implement a work around solution of a manual process of=20
  creating the CLEAN_IN_BACKGROUND file and running the bpimage -cleanup=20
  -allclients command to delete the expired images.(TECHNOTE -=20
  236274)</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">I have=20
  tested the scheduling process as specified by Veritas by scheduling every=
thing=20
  but it seems that even though the image is set to expire, the actual disk=
   image will only clear once the scheduled backups have been run, which in=
 this=20
  case would be the next nights backup schedule.</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">With=20
  the limited resources that I have I can not afford to hold two nights ima=
ges=20
  on disk.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">If=20
  there is anyone else who is following the same process, please can you ad=
vise=20
  me on the process that you follow to backup the images to disk, vault the=
m to=20
  tape and then clear them in the shortest time possible.</SPAN></FONT><FON=
T=20
  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
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  color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
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  color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
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r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">Thank=20
  you in advance.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">Andrew=20
  Walker</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
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