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Josh,
I'm afraid your wrong. You can not backup a 3.2 client to a 4.5 Master.=20
You can only go one version back, so 3.4 to 4.5 is ok.
Thanks,
Kris
"Goldfarb, Josh" <Josh.Goldfarb AT blackrock DOT com>
09/16/2003 01:21 PM
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"Can I upgrade to 4.5 from 3.4 and still used nbu on the man 3.2 clients
we have?"
It is my understanding that you can still use backward compatability up
to two releases so 3.2 will work until 5.0. Someone please correct me
if I am wrong.
Thx
Josh
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Today's Topics:
1. RE: help:vsm qeusteion (Mark Erickson)
2. can 4.5 master/media server work with 3.2 clients (Marvin
Blackburn)
3. Re: Problems with 4.5MP3/MP5 and W2K Machines (John Meyers)
4. library emulation under Windows (Rolf C)
5. Managing a Unix/Solaris server from W2K desktop (Johnston,
Christopher)
6. RE: Backing up to disk (and then tape ??) (Greenberg, Katherine A)
7. Problems loading drivers for tape library (David Thome)
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Message: 1
From: Mark Erickson <Mark.Erickson AT veritas DOT com>
To: "'liming'" <liming700 AT 163 DOT com>,
veritas-bu
<veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] help:vsm qeusteion
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:18:19 -0400
The batch migrate doesn't purge files. Try the migloc command or to
purge all purgable files see the migpurge command.
-----Original Message-----
From: liming [mailto:liming700 AT 163 DOT com]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:26 PM
To: veritas-bu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] help:vsm qeusteion
Hi all,I'm doing a VSM test now.I had finish the base configuration and
the storage method is NB,then I do a batch migrate,some seconds later
the operation been finish and succeeded.From the FILE BROWES display all
file in the test filesystem had been migrated.But from the NBU console I
can't see any policy about VSM,and the diskunit is empty,the output of
df is the same as the display before the batch migration.What's wrong?
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:10:03 -0400
From: Marvin Blackburn <mblackburn AT glenraven DOT com>
To: "Veritas--ListServer (E-mail)" <Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] can 4.5 master/media server work with 3.2 clients
Can I upgrade to 4.5 from 3.4 and still used nbu on the man 3.2 clients
we have?
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Marvin Blackburn
Systems Administrator
Glen Raven
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:10:13 -0400
From: John Meyers <john.meyers AT wright DOT edu>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Problems with 4.5MP3/MP5 and W2K Machines
To: Shahar.Shaynis AT ecitele DOT com
Cc: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Shahar.Shaynis AT ecitele DOT com wrote:
>Hello Gurus!
>
>Lately we did a few changes in our NT environment.
>
>1) Upgraded all W2K to SP3
>2) Installed the Microsoft Fix for the Blaster problem
>3) Switched from Norton Antivirus to Virus Scan 7.
>
>
>Since then we experience allot of problems with backups that hang,
>start working and do nothing but occupy the que and prevent other jobs
>from being executed, which leads to 196 (Backup Window Exceeded).
>
>
>
We're just starting to implement NetBackup with our W2K servers, and
we've run
into a similar problem. Our server is running NetBackup 4.5.5 under
Solaris 8. At
this point, the server can communicate with the client, but as soon as
the client
starts up a backup stream, it just hangs (e.g. it looks like it's
starting to
transfer data, but it just sits there forever). We've got about 20
unix based
clients that work without problems. We've also tested the client on
some XP systems
which also work ok, so it seems to be something specific to the W2K
boxes.
I'm getting ready to put a support call into Veritas, so I'll post a
followup as
soon as I find out what's going on.
John
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From: "Rolf C" <rolfcolmer AT hotmail DOT com>
To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:36:57 +0200
Subject: [Veritas-bu] library emulation under Windows
Maybe a little bit off topic, but is anyone aware of a program that can
emulate a library under Windows 2000? I know there are programs like
FakeCD
to emulate a cd player, but i want to emulate a library and tapedrive
for
testing perposes?
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From: "Johnston, Christopher" <JohnstoC AT Aegiscomgroup DOT com>
To: "Veritas (E-mail)" <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:43:49 -0500
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Managing a Unix/Solaris server from W2K desktop
Environment: We're currently running 1 solaris NB 4.5 mp5 server in our
main datacenter and 10 NB 4.5 servers in our remote sites.
The solaris server used to be v3.4 and we used a Java Client on our W2K
desktops to manage it. We cannot find a 4.5 equivilent app that will
function on the W2K platform. Our current method for managing the
solaris server is to use cywin to access a Redhat box where we can then
telnet into our server and run a emulated version of the java app.
I have heard rumors that we need to have feature pack 3 in order to
obtain a W2K compatible utility, but as we are on the MP track this is a
jagged pill to swallow.
Any advice is welcome.
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Message: 6
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up to disk (and then tape ??)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:27:20 -0400
From: "Greenberg, Katherine A" <GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT com>
To: <markjessup AT northwesternmutual DOT com>, <boatm005 AT groupwise.umn DOT
edu>,
<charles.hart AT medtronic DOT com>, <rlh AT lsil DOT com>,
<Steve.Jenkins AT SPARROW DOT ORG>,
<veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
We've found that the Vault option will delete the images on Disk ONLY
after ALL Vault jobs have completed. We have 2 Vaults, one is disk to
tape, one is tape to tape. If the tape to tape Vault is running, the
disk to tape Vault will not delete images until the other Vault has
completed. Kinda lame....
Also, in regard to:
"If your Disk fills up before the backups complete does NBU
automatically know to roll those images to tape, or do you have to
manually kick that process off?"
We have the disk to tape Vault configured to run at a very high
frequency (every hour). This and proper sizing for the disk pool have
made so the disk won't get full in the time period configured.
~Kate
Katherine Greenberg
Systems Engineer
Mid-Range Storage Management
Aetna, Inc.
greenbergka AT aetna DOT com
860.636.6724
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rlh AT lsil DOT com; Steve.Jenkins AT SPARROW DOT ORG;
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up to disk (and then tape ??)
We are trying use disk units also in conjunction with the Vault option
and what we are seeing is that Vault will expire the images after they
get copied to tape but the actually images do not get deleted then. So
the Vault policy / process is working fine but the cleanup part is not.
Does anyone else have this problem? Is this something we need to
schedule ourselves?
-----Original Message-----
From: charles.hart [SMTP:charles.hart AT medtronic DOT com]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Steve.Jenkins; boatm005; rlh; veritas-bu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up to disk (and then tape ??)
If your Disk fills up before the backups complete does NBU automatically
know to roll those images to tape, or do you have to manually kick that
process off?
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Jenkins [mailto:Steve.Jenkins AT SPARROW DOT ORG]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:13 AM
To: boatm005 AT groupwise.umn DOT edu; rlh AT lsil DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up to disk (and then tape ??)
We back up about 20 percent of our stuff to disk. It's especially
effective for clients connected over a slow link, avoiding tying up a
tape drive for a long period of time.
The basic concept is that we defined a disk storage unit, which is just
a directory on disk somewhere. The images are written as files to this
directory. I have a script that kicks off at the end of the night. It
lists the file names and builds a bpduplicate job that creates two new
copies of each image, copy 2 and 3, making copy 2 the new primary (all
basic options from the admin manual). These two new copies are on
tapes, one to stay in the robot (copy 2), one to go offsite. Once the
duplications are successful, the script runs bpexpdate to expire the
disk image (copy 1).
If througput becomes an issue, I can split it into multiple
bpduplication jobs.
Works pretty slick.
Steve
>>> "Paul Boatman" <boatm005 AT groupwise.umn DOT edu> 9/15/03 10:42:17 AM
>>>
Wow,
Great question. I am interested in this as well. Our robots go widely
un-utilized during the day, and then get maxed out at night during the
backup window. We just don't have the bandwidth to finish everything
during that relatively small backup window. Any increase in performance
makes a HUGE difference for our site.
- Paul
>>> Richard Hellier <rlh AT lsil DOT com> 09/15/03 09:34AM >>>
Folks,
In various recent threads, some people have mentioned using
"backup to disk" (and then (e.g.) dup'ing to tape) as a way of
accelerating backups, getting reduced backup windows etc.
If you are doing this, could I ask you, please, to let me know
some details of what sort of equipment you're using, any gotchas with
this approach?
I'm asking because our current 1.8 Tbyte data volume looks set to
grow to 5-6 Tbyte and I don't think our current approach (ATL P3000 + 5
DLT drives) will scale to that sort of data volume.
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From: "David Thome" <drt8243 AT hotmail DOT com>
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:54:35 +0000
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problems loading drivers for tape library
<html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV>Having a heck of a time trying
to get my device drivers loaded for SUN L1000 tape library. SUN
server running Solaris 8.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Loaded netbackup
4.5</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've gone through the steps in "Loading
Veritas device drivers for Solairis" . sginstall etc.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm still not seing the tape library.
(sgscan)</DIV> <DIV>nothing in /dev/rmt</DIV> <DIV>nothing in
/dev/sg</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>have rebooted server with -r
(reconfigure) still no luck</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>any
suggestions?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you</DIV>
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<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Josh,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">I'm afraid your wrong. You can not b=
ackup a 3.2 client to a 4.5 Master. You can only go one version back, so 3.=
4 to 4.5 is ok.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Kris</font>
<br>
<br>
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<td><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif"><b>"Goldfarb, Josh" <Jo=
sh.Goldfarb AT blackrock DOT com></b></font>
<p><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">09/16/2003 01:21 PM</font>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>"Can I upgrade to 4.5 from 3.4 and still used n=
bu on the man 3.2 clients<br>
we have?"<br>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>It is my understanding that you can still use backwa=
rd compatability up<br>
to two releases so 3.2 will work until 5.0. Someone please correct me=
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if I am wrong.<br>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>Thx<br>
Josh<br>
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Blackburn)<br>
3. Re: Problems with 4.5MP3/MP5 and W2K Machines (John Meyers)<br>
4. library emulation under Windows (Rolf C)<br>
5. Managing a Unix/Solaris server from W2K desktop (Johnston,<br>
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To: "'liming'" <liming700 AT 163 DOT com>,<br>
veritas-bu<br>
<veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu><br>
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] help:vsm qeusteion<br>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:18:19 -0400<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>The batch migrate doesn't purge files. Try the=
migloc command or to<br>
purge all purgable files see the migpurge command.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: liming [mailto:liming700 AT 163 DOT com]<br>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:26 PM<br>
To: veritas-bu<br>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] help:vsm qeusteion<br>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>Hi all,I'm doing a VSM test now.I had finish the bas=
e configuration and<br>
the storage method is NB,then I do a batch migrate,some seconds later<br>
the operation been finish and succeeded.From the FILE BROWES display all<br>
file in the test filesystem had been migrated.But from the NBU console I<br>
can't see any policy about VSM,and the diskunit is empty,the output of<br>
df is the same as the display before the batch migration.What's wrong?<br>
Thanks!<br>
</tt></font>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>Message: 2<br>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:10:03 -0400<br>
From: Marvin Blackburn <mblackburn AT glenraven DOT com><br>
To: "Veritas--ListServer (E-mail)" <Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng DOT
aub=
urn.edu><br>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] can 4.5 master/media server work with 3.2 clients<br>
</tt></font>
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the man 3.2 clients<br>
we have?<br>
</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>------------------<br>
Marvin Blackburn<br>
Systems Administrator<br>
Glen Raven<br>
"He's no failure. He's not dead yet" --William Lloyd George=
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>Message: 3<br>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:10:13 -0400<br>
From: John Meyers <john.meyers AT wright DOT edu><br>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Problems with 4.5MP3/MP5 and W2K Machines<br>
To: Shahar.Shaynis AT ecitele DOT com<br>
Cc: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>Shahar.Shaynis AT ecitele DOT com wrote:<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>>Hello Gurus!<br>
><br>
>Lately we did a few changes in our NT environment.<br>
><br>
>1) Upgraded all W2K to SP3<br>
>2) Installed the Microsoft Fix for the Blaster problem<br>
>3) Switched from Norton Antivirus to Virus Scan 7.<br>
><br>
><br>
>Since then we experience allot of problems with backups that hang,<br>
>start working and do nothing but occupy the que and prevent other jobs<=
br>
>from being executed, which leads to 196 (Backup Window Exceeded).<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
We're just starting to implement NetBackup with our W2K servers, and<br>
we've run<br>
into a similar problem. Our server is running NetBackup 4.5.5 under<=
br>
Solaris 8. At<br>
this point, the server can communicate with the client, but as soon as<br>
the client<br>
starts up a backup stream, it just hangs (e.g. it looks like it's<br>
starting to<br>
transfer data, but it just sits there forever). We've got about 20<b=
r>
unix based<br>
clients that work without problems. We've also tested the client on<=
br>
some XP systems<br>
which also work ok, so it seems to be something specific to the W2K<br>
boxes.<br>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt> I'm getting ready to put a support call into V=
eritas, so I'll post a<br>
followup as<br>
soon as I find out what's going on.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>John<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>--<br>
John Meyers<br>
Computing Services<br>
Wright State University<br>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>Message: 4<br>
From: "Rolf C" <rolfcolmer AT hotmail DOT com><br>
To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:36:57 +0200<br>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] library emulation under Windows<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>Maybe a little bit off topic, but is anyone aware of=
a program that can<br>
emulate a library under Windows 2000? I know there are programs like<br>
FakeCD<br>
to emulate a cd player, but i want to emulate a library and tapedrive<br>
for<br>
testing perposes?<br>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>Message: 5<br>
From: "Johnston, Christopher" <JohnstoC AT Aegiscomgroup DOT
com><=
br>
To: "Veritas (E-mail)" <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu><=
br>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:43:49 -0500<br>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Managing a Unix/Solaris server from W2K desktop<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>Environment: We're currently running 1 solaris NB 4.=
5 mp5 server in our<br>
main datacenter and 10 NB 4.5 servers in our remote sites.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>The solaris server used to be v3.4 and we used a Jav=
a Client on our W2K<br>
desktops to manage it. We cannot find a 4.5 equivilent app that will<=
br>
function on the W2K platform. Our current method for managing the<br>
solaris server is to use cywin to access a Redhat box where we can then<br>
telnet into our server and run a emulated version of the java app.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>I have heard rumors that we need to have feature pac=
k 3 in order to<br>
obtain a W2K compatible utility, but as we are on the MP track this is a<br>
jagged pill to swallow.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>Any advice is welcome.<br>
</tt></font>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>Message: 6<br>
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up to disk (and then tape ??)<br>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:27:20 -0400<br>
From: "Greenberg, Katherine A" <GreenbergKA AT aetna DOT
com><br>
To: <markjessup AT northwesternmutual DOT com>, <boatm005 AT groupwise
DOT umn.e=
du>,<br>
<charles.hart AT medtronic DOT com>, <rlh AT lsil DOT
com>,<br>
<Steve.Jenkins AT SPARROW DOT ORG>,<br>
<veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu><br>
</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>We've found that the Vault option will delete the im=
ages on Disk ONLY<br>
after ALL Vault jobs have completed. We have 2 Vaults, one is disk to<br>
tape, one is tape to tape. If the tape to tape Vault is running, the<br>
disk to tape Vault will not delete images until the other Vault has<br>
completed. Kinda lame....<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>Also, in regard to:<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>"If your Disk fills up before the backups compl=
ete does NBU<br>
automatically know to roll those images to tape, or do you have to<br>
manually kick that process off?"<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>We have the disk to tape Vault configured to run at =
a very high<br>
frequency (every hour). This and proper sizing for the disk pool have<br>
made so the disk won't get full in the time period configured.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>~Kate<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>Katherine Greenberg<br>
Systems Engineer<br>
Mid-Range Storage Management<br>
Aetna, Inc.<br>
greenbergka AT aetna DOT com<br>
860.636.6724<br>
</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: markjessup AT northwesternmutual DOT com<br>
[mailto:markjessup AT northwesternmutual DOT com]<br>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:20 PM<br>
To: boatm005 AT groupwise.umn DOT edu; charles.hart AT medtronic DOT com;<br>
rlh AT lsil DOT com; Steve.Jenkins AT SPARROW DOT ORG;<br>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up to disk (and then tape ??)<br>
</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>We are trying use disk units also in conjunction wit=
h the Vault option<br>
and what we are seeing is that Vault will expire the images after they<br>
get copied to tape but the actually images do not get deleted then. S=
o<br>
the Vault policy / process is working fine but the cleanup part is not.<br>
Does anyone else have this problem? Is this something we need to<br>
schedule ourselves?<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: charles.hart [SMTP:charles.hart AT medtronic DOT
com]<b=
r>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:43 AM<br>
To: Steve.Jenkins; boatm005; rlh; veritas-bu<br>
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up to disk (and then tape ??=
)<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>If your Disk fills up before the backups complete do=
es NBU automatically<br>
know to roll those images to tape, or do you have to manually kick that<br>
process off?<br>
</tt></font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Steve Jenkins [mailto:Steve.Jenkins AT SPARROW DOT ORG]<br>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:13 AM<br>
To: boatm005 AT groupwise.umn DOT edu; rlh AT lsil DOT com;<br>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up to disk (and then tape ??)<br>
</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>We back up about 20 percent of our stuff to disk. &n=
bsp;It's especially<br>
effective for clients connected over a slow link, avoiding tying up a<br>
tape drive for a long period of time.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>The basic concept is that we defined a disk storage =
unit, which is just<br>
a directory on disk somewhere. The images are written as files to thi=
s<br>
directory. I have a script that kicks off at the end of the night. &n=
bsp;It<br>
lists the file names and builds a bpduplicate job that creates two new<br>
copies of each image, copy 2 and 3, making copy 2 the new primary (all<br>
basic options from the admin manual). These two new copies are on<br>
tapes, one to stay in the robot (copy 2), one to go offsite. Once the=
<br>
duplications are successful, the script runs bpexpdate to expire the<br>
disk image (copy 1).<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>If througput becomes an issue, I can split it into m=
ultiple<br>
bpduplication jobs.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>Works pretty slick.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt> Stev=
e<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>>>> "Paul Boatman" <boatm005@g=
roupwise.umn.edu> 9/15/03 10:42:17 AM<br>
>>><br>
Wow,<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>Great question. I am interested in this as wel=
l. Our robots go widely<br>
un-utilized during the day, and then get maxed out at night during the<br>
backup window. We just don't have the bandwidth to finish everything<br>
during that relatively small backup window. Any increase in performance<br>
makes a HUGE difference for our site.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>- Paul<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt>>>> Richard Hellier <rlh AT lsil DOT com>
09=
/15/03 09:34AM >>><br>
Folks,<br>
In various recent threads, some people have mentioned =
using<br>
"backup to disk" (and then (e.g.) dup'ing to tape) as a way of<br>
accelerating backups, getting reduced backup windows etc.<br>
</tt></font>
<br><font size=3D1><tt> If you are doing this, could I =
ask you, please, to let me know<br>
some details of what sort of equipment you're using, any gotchas with<br>
this approach?<br>
</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D1><tt> I'm asking because our current =
1.8 Tbyte data volume looks set to<br>
grow to 5-6 Tbyte and I don't think our current approach (ATL P3000 + 5<br>
DLT drives) will scale to that sort of data volume.<br>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt>Message: 7<br>
From: "David Thome" <drt8243 AT hotmail DOT com><br>
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:54:35 +0000<br>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problems loading drivers for tape library<br>
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<br><font size=3D1><tt><html><div style=3D'background-color:'>&=
lt;DIV>Having a heck of a time trying<br>
to get my device drivers loaded for SUN L1000 tape library.&nbsp; SUN<b=
r>
server running Solaris 8.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <=
;DIV>Loaded netbackup<br>
4.5</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I've gone thro=
ugh the steps in "Loading<br>
Veritas device drivers for Solairis" . sginstall etc.</DIV><br>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I'm still not seing the tape l=
ibrary.&nbsp;<br>
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