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Yes, and no. Within the NBU example shell script, there is code that
connects to the target database, does a shutdown immediate, then a
startup mount. Once the cold backup has completed, we connect to the
target db again, and issue an alter database open command.
We've got a highly modified version of dbstart and dbshut, which is what
I use in my RMAN script generation program.
--Steve
Donaldson, Mark wrote:
> My DBA's tell me that the shutdown/startup commands are part of the
> RMAN command set.
>
> So, for an RMAN multistream cold you should be able to shutdown the
> DB, create a multi-channel backup job via RMAN which translates to a
> NB multistream backup, then startup the DB when complete. Call the
> RMAN script from cron on the client & it's one shutdown & one startup.
>
> -M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Markham, Richard [mailto:RMarkham AT hafeleamericas DOT com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 13, 2003 8:42 AM
> *To:* 'Donaldson, Mark'; List, VERITAS NBU
> *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU/RMAN Cold Backup question
>
> This thread struck a bit of curiousity in me. I haven't actually
> implemented
> "cold" backups through RMAN and NB. So the jobs themselves are
> sending
> startup/shutdown commands to the db as it sees fit? Or do I have
> this wrong?
> Are the multiple jobs running the same main scripts each time,
> which contain
> the startup/shutdown commands? Thanks for any heads up.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:06 PM
> To: Steven L. Sesar; List, VERITAS NBU
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU/RMAN Cold Backup question
>
>
> The first job to complete will probably attempt to bring the DB
> back up,
> too.
>
> You have to write a stream-aware set of scripts for DB startup &
> shutdown.
>
> I do mine with a series of lock files & counters. The number of
> streams is
> an environment variable & so I have a lockfile. For startup, each
> stream
> checks for the lock file, creating it & starting the DB
> preparation if it is
> the first to start. The loser of the race starts to watch for a
> completion
> flag that the first stream will write when the DB is all the way
> down - then
> they stop waiting & end to allow the backup to proceed.
>
> The end-job is pretty much the same in reverse. The last stream
> to complete
> has to restart the DB.
>
> One quick way around this, since you've got RMAN is drop the
> Netbackup
> scheduling & run the job from cron on the DB client. It's all
> driven from
> RMAN script that way.
>
> HTH - Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven L. Sesar [mailto:ssesar AT mitre DOT org]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:24 AM
> To: List, VERITAS NBU
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU/RMAN Cold Backup question
>
>
> Hi,
>
> When I kick off a cold backup, NBU breaks the backup up into several
> jobs. The problem with this, is that each new job that starts,
> tries to
> shutdown/startup mount the SID that it is backing up.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this, and what have you done about it?
>
> NBU 4.5MP4, Solaris 8.
>
> --Steve
>
> _______________________________________________
> Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
>
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===================================
Steven L. Sesar
Senior Operating Systems Programmer/Analyst
UNIX Application Services R10A
The MITRE Corporation
202 Burlington Road - KS101
Bedford, MA 01730
tel: (781) 271-7702
fax: (781) 271-2600
mobile: (617) 893-9635
email: ssesar AT mitre DOT org
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Yes, and no. Within the NBU example shell script, there is code that
connects to the target database, does a shutdown immediate, then a
startup mount. Once the cold backup has completed, we connect to the
target db again, and issue an alter database open command.<br>
<br>
We've got a highly modified version of dbstart and dbshut, which is
what I use in my RMAN script generation program.<br>
<br>
--Steve<br>
<br>
Donaldson, Mark wrote:<br>
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<div><span class="325575515-13062003"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">My DBA's tell me that the shutdown/startup
commands are part of the RMAN command set.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="325575515-13062003"></span> </div>
<div><span class="325575515-13062003"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">So, for an RMAN multistream cold you should
be able to shutdown the DB, create a multi-channel backup job via RMAN
which translates to a NB multistream backup, then startup the DB when
complete. Call the RMAN script from cron on the client & it's one
shutdown & one startup.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="325575515-13062003"></span> </div>
<div><span class="325575515-13062003"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">-M</font></span></div>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;">
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left"><font
face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> Markham, Richard [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:RMarkham AT hafeleamericas DOT com">mailto:RMarkham AT
hafeleamericas DOT com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 13, 2003 8:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Donaldson, Mark'; List, VERITAS NBU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU/RMAN Cold Backup question<br>
<br>
</font></div>
<p><font size="2">This thread struck a bit of curiousity in me. I
haven't actually implemented </font><br>
<font size="2">"cold" backups through RMAN and NB. So the jobs
themselves are sending </font><br>
<font size="2">startup/shutdown commands to the db as it sees fit?
Or do I have this wrong?</font> <br>
<font size="2">Are the multiple jobs running the same main
scripts each time, which contain</font> <br>
<font size="2">the startup/shutdown commands? Thanks for any
heads up.</font> </p>
<br>
<p><font size="2">-----Original Message-----</font> <br>
<font size="2">From: Donaldson, Mark [<a
href="mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com">mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT
experianems DOT com</a>]</font> <br>
<font size="2">Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:06 PM</font> <br>
<font size="2">To: Steven L. Sesar; List, VERITAS NBU</font> <br>
<font size="2">Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU/RMAN Cold Backup
question</font> </p>
<br>
<p><font size="2">The first job to complete will probably attempt
to bring the DB back up,</font> <br>
<font size="2">too.</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">You have to write a stream-aware set of scripts
for DB startup & shutdown.</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">I do mine with a series of lock files &
counters. The number of streams is</font> <br>
<font size="2">an environment variable & so I have a
lockfile. For startup, each stream</font> <br>
<font size="2">checks for the lock file, creating it & starting
the DB preparation if it is</font> <br>
<font size="2">the first to start. The loser of the race starts
to watch for a completion</font> <br>
<font size="2">flag that the first stream will write when the DB
is all the way down - then</font> <br>
<font size="2">they stop waiting & end to allow the backup to
proceed.</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">The end-job is pretty much the same in reverse.
The last stream to complete</font> <br>
<font size="2">has to restart the DB.</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">One quick way around this, since you've got RMAN
is drop the Netbackup</font> <br>
<font size="2">scheduling & run the job from cron on the DB
client. It's all driven from</font> <br>
<font size="2">RMAN script that way.</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">HTH - Mark</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">-----Original Message-----</font> <br>
<font size="2">From: Steven L. Sesar [<a
href="mailto:ssesar AT mitre DOT org">mailto:ssesar AT mitre DOT
org</a>]</font> <br>
<font size="2">Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:24 AM</font> <br>
<font size="2">To: List, VERITAS NBU</font> <br>
<font size="2">Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU/RMAN Cold Backup
question</font> </p>
<br>
<p><font size="2">Hi,</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">When I kick off a cold backup, NBU breaks the
backup up into several </font><br>
<font size="2">jobs. The problem with this, is that each new job
that starts, tries to </font><br>
<font size="2">shutdown/startup mount the SID that it is backing
up.</font> <br>
<font size="2"> </font> <br>
<font size="2">Has anyone else encountered this, and what have you
done about it?</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">NBU 4.5MP4, Solaris 8.</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">--Steve</font> </p>
<p><font size="2">_______________________________________________</font>
<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Veritas-bu AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a></font>
<br>
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href="http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu";>http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu</a></font>
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</blockquote>
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Steven L. Sesar
Senior Operating Systems Programmer/Analyst
UNIX Application Services R10A
The MITRE Corporation
202 Burlington Road - KS101
Bedford, MA 01730
tel: (781) 271-7702
fax: (781) 271-2600
mobile: (617) 893-9635
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ssesar AT mitre DOT
org">ssesar AT mitre DOT org</a>
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