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[Veritas-bu] Media Unique ID - from Media GUID

2003-05-29 15:31:11
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Unique ID - from Media GUID
From: Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com (Donaldson, Mark)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:31:11 -0600
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I don't think there is a "truly unique ID".  It's all just the Volume label.
That why each media server must be managing a unique set of ID's.  In other
words, if the media servers are sharing a common master, then the volume
ID's must be unique within that set of servers.  Don't duplicate ID's.
 
The Vol DB then, on the master server, knows about all the tapes that can be
used by all the different media servers.  When a tape is assigned to a media
server, then the volume ID entry is made in that media servers media
database.  When the tape is unassigned, it'll be removed.  Don't label two
pieces of media the same name if it's got a common master server.
 
I'd go on to say that if you've got more than one master server, to still
not duplicate labels.  Operationally, you're just begging them to be mixed
up.  "And which tape 000001 do you want inserted?".
 
-M

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From: MOYES-CLARK,SHANNON (HP-FtCollins,ex1) [mailto:shannonm AT hp DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:25 PM
To: 'Donaldson, Mark'; MOYES-CLARK,SHANNON (HP-FtCollins,ex1);
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Unique ID - from Media GUID


Hi all
 
You are right, my bad - the media database not the Volume Database.  The
GUID would be the unique id of the media.  Can I label two pieces of media
with the same name via "bplabel"?  How then does Net Backup tell them apart?
There must be some truly unique id on each piece of labeled media, right?
How would I get that unique name.
 
Shannon
 
 

Shannon J. Moyes Clark
Software Engineer
Storage Software Division
Hewlett Packard Company
shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT com < < mailto:shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT com
<mailto:shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT com> >>
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From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:21 PM
To: 'MOYES-CLARK,SHANNON (HP-FtCollins,ex1)';
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media GUID's


The volume database is on the master server so it's common to the two media
servers.  Each media server has it's own media database but that's
different.  Use labels such that no two are the same between media servers.
 
GUID?  I don't recognize the acronym.
 
Almost everything you want to know about a given piece of media is available
from the "vmquery" command which queries the Vol DB on the master server.
 
HTH - Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: MOYES-CLARK,SHANNON (HP-FtCollins,ex1) [mailto:shannonm AT hp DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:38 AM
To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media GUID's


Hi all,
 
    So if I have two media servers and one master server and they each have
their own volume database, it is possible to get media with the same label.
Is it possible / how do I get the GUID for a given piece of media from the
command line?
 
Thanks,
 
Shannon
 
 

Shannon J. Moyes Clark
Software Engineer
Storage Software Division
Hewlett Packard Company
shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT com < < mailto:shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT com
<mailto:shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT com> >>
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<DIV><SPAN class=733512519-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
don't think there is a "truly unique ID".&nbsp; It's all just the Volume 
label.&nbsp; That why each media server must be managing a unique set of 
ID's.&nbsp; In other words, if the media servers are sharing a common master, 
then the volume ID's must be unique within that set of servers.&nbsp; Don't 
duplicate ID's.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=733512519-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=733512519-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The 
Vol DB then, on the master server, knows about all the tapes that can be used 
by 
all the different media servers.&nbsp; When a tape is assigned to a media 
server, then the volume ID entry is made in that media servers media 
database.&nbsp; When the tape is unassigned, it'll be removed.&nbsp; Don't 
label 
two pieces of media the same name if it's got a&nbsp;common master 
server.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=733512519-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=733512519-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'd 
go 
on to say that if you've got more than one master server, to still not 
duplicate 
labels.&nbsp; Operationally, you're just begging them to be mixed up.&nbsp; 
"And 
which tape 000001 do you want inserted?".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=733512519-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=733512519-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> MOYES-CLARK,SHANNON 
  (HP-FtCollins,ex1) [mailto:shannonm AT hp DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 
May 29, 
  2003 1:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Donaldson, Mark'; MOYES-CLARK,SHANNON 
  (HP-FtCollins,ex1); 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
  [Veritas-bu] Media Unique ID - from Media GUID<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=112441319-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi 
  all</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=112441319-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=112441319-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
  are right, my bad - the media database not the Volume Database.&nbsp; The 
GUID 
  would be the unique id of the media.&nbsp; Can I&nbsp;label two pieces of 
  media with the same name via "bplabel"?&nbsp; How then does Net Backup tell 
  them apart?&nbsp; There must be some truly unique id on each piece of labeled 
  media, right?&nbsp; How would I get that unique name.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=112441319-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=112441319-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Shannon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <P><FONT size=2>Shannon J. Moyes Clark<BR>Software Engineer<BR>Storage 
  Software Division<BR>Hewlett Packard Company<BR>shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT 
com 
  &lt; &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT com">mailto:shannon.moyes-clark AT 
hp DOT com</A>&gt;&gt;<BR>- 
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<BR>All of 
  that legal stuff about the opinions expressed here being mine and not those 
of 
  HP.<BR>&nbsp;</FONT> </P>
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    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Donaldson, 
    Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
Thursday, May 
    29, 2003 12:21 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'MOYES-CLARK,SHANNON (HP-FtCollins,ex1)'; 
    'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
    Media GUID's<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=665461818-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>The volume database is on the master server so it's common to the 
two 
    media servers.&nbsp; Each media server has it's own media database but 
    that's different.&nbsp; Use labels such that no two are the same between 
    media servers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=665461818-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=665461818-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>GUID?&nbsp; I don't recognize the acronym.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=665461818-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=665461818-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Almost everything you want to know about a given piece of media is 
    available from the "vmquery" command which queries the Vol DB on the master 
    server.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=665461818-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=665461818-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>HTH - Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> MOYES-CLARK,SHANNON 
      (HP-FtCollins,ex1) [mailto:shannonm AT hp DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 
Thursday, May 
      29, 2003 10:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
      'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
[Veritas-bu] Media 
      GUID's<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=811043616-29052003>Hi all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=811043616-29052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=811043616-29052003>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So if I have two media 
servers 
      and one master server and they each have their own volume database, it is 
      possible to get media with the same label.&nbsp; Is it possible / how do 
I 
      get the GUID for a given piece of media from the command 
      line?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=811043616-29052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=811043616-29052003>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=811043616-29052003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=811043616-29052003>Shannon</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><!-- 
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      <P><FONT size=2>Shannon J. Moyes Clark<BR>Software Engineer<BR>Storage 
      Software Division<BR>Hewlett Packard Company<BR>shannon.moyes-clark AT hp 
DOT com 
      &lt; &lt;<A 
      href="mailto:shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT 
com">mailto:shannon.moyes-clark AT hp DOT com</A>&gt;&gt;<BR>- 
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<BR>All 
      of that legal stuff about the opinions expressed here being mine and not 
      those of 
HP.</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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