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108725-17 ??? 108725-12 from   <http://www.sun.com> www.sun.com (last
patch).
=20
You have no compression software (from your backup policy)
=20
Your tape drive are direct attach. One drive by HBA ?
=20
You don't use MPX.
=20
So maybe you may test backup to "disk" storage unit ?? To test backup =
speed
from your network.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Rosamond, Travis [mailto:trosamond AT uslec DOT com]
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 30 avril 2003 16:55
=C0 : 'Brochart, Fabrice'
Cc : 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Objet : RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B config in a L700


Solaris 8 : patch 108725-17
=20
No MPX compression at drive direct connect from JNI Cards (6412).

-----Original Message-----
From: Brochart, Fabrice [mailto:BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 10:51 AM
To: Rosamond, Travis; Brochart, Fabrice
Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B config in a L700


Solaris 8 : patch 108725-10
=20
Multiplexing ? Compression ? Switch Fc or not ?


 -----Message d'origine-----
De : Rosamond, Travis [mailto:trosamond AT uslec DOT com]
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 30 avril 2003 16:35
=C0 : 'Brochart, Fabrice'
Cc : 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Objet : RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B config in a L700



Well the st.driver is good..
=20
The patch level is at MP2 on NBU The backup network speed is gigabyt =
and the
backups are full, incr and RMAN.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brochart, Fabrice [mailto:BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Rosamond, Travis
Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B config in a L700


    Well,
=20
See your st driver (what level of patch) !!
=20
What is your backup ?? network speed, full, incremental ???
=20
Fabrice

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Rosamond, Travis [mailto:trosamond AT uslec DOT com]
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 30 avril 2003 15:32
=C0 : 'Brochart, Fabrice'
Cc : 'Veritas-Bu (E-mail)'
Objet : RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B config in a L700


Okay I ran the DD test and did in fact see speeds of 69M per sec....
=20
It seems to me that NBU is what is slowing the devices down... On Last
nights backups I still did not see much better than my DLT drives =
except for
one of my dev boxes which was 27...
=20
ANY Thoughts on this is needed because it just DOES NOT make sense to =
me...
=20
-Travis

-----Original Message-----
From: Brochart, Fabrice [mailto:BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 5:06 AM
To: Rosamond, Travis
Cc: 'Veritas-Bu (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B config in a L700


    Travis,
=20
All your drives are direct connect or via fiber switch ??
=20
It seems that all your NetBackup tuning parameters are good so,did you =
try,
as Paul mentioned it, some trivial tests.
=20
Speed disk test with dd command, and tape tests (even with DLT drive).
=20
Fabrice

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Paul Winkeler [mailto:pwinkeler AT pbnj-solutions DOT com]
Envoy=E9 : mardi 29 avril 2003 21:30
=C0 : 'Rosamond, Travis'
Cc : 'Veritas-Bu (E-mail)'
Objet : RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B config in a L700


Travis
=20
I'll second what the two other gentlemen already mentioned.  Since you =
don't
say anything about restore operations failing I am assuming you already =
had
the SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS set properly.  The number of buffers is still key
though.
=20
Try this experiment on one of your T9940B drives:
    dd if=3D/dev/zero bs=3D1024k count=3D2048 of=3D/dev/rmt/<num>cbn
and use iostat -xn to monitor the write throughput to the drive.  I =
have
seen speeds of up to 69MByte/sec this way.
=20
By the way what class sun machine are running this on?
=20
 PaulW
=20
www.pbnj-solutions.com <http://www.pbnj-solutions.com/>  IT Solutions =
That
Stick
(216) 533-5708


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><FONT size=3D2>108725-17 ??? =
</FONT>108725-12=20
from&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D485100115-30042003><A =
href=3D"http://www.sun.com";><FONT=20
color=3D#000000>www.sun.com</FONT></A> (last =
patch).</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><SPAN=20
class=3D485100115-30042003></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><SPAN =
class=3D485100115-30042003><FONT=20
size=3D2>You have no compression software (from your backup=20
policy)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><SPAN =
class=3D485100115-30042003><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><SPAN =
class=3D485100115-30042003><FONT=20
size=3D2>Your tape drive are direct attach. One drive by HBA=20
?</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><SPAN =
class=3D485100115-30042003><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><SPAN =
class=3D485100115-30042003><FONT=20
size=3D2>You don't use MPX.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><SPAN =
class=3D485100115-30042003><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D419450015-30042003><SPAN =
class=3D485100115-30042003><FONT=20
size=3D2>So maybe you may test backup to "disk" storage unit ?? To test =
backup=20
speed from your network.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De&nbsp;:</B> Rosamond, =
Travis=20
  [mailto:trosamond AT uslec DOT com]<BR><B>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</B> mercredi 30 =
avril 2003=20
  16:55<BR><B>=C0&nbsp;:</B> 'Brochart, Fabrice'<BR><B>Cc&nbsp;:</B>=20
  'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Objet&nbsp;:</B> RE: =
[Veritas-bu]=20
  9940B config in a L700<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D148155214-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
  color=3D#0000ff>Solaris 8 : patch 108725-17</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D148155214-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
  color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D148155214-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
  color=3D#0000ff>No MPX compression at drive direct connect from JNI =
Cards=20
  (6412).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brochart, =
Fabrice=20
    [mailto:BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April =
30, 2003=20
    10:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Rosamond, Travis; Brochart, =
Fabrice<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
    'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Veritas-bu]=20
    9940B config in a L700<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D667533714-30042003><FONT size=3D2>Solaris 8 : =
patch=20
    108725-10</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D667533714-30042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D667533714-30042003><FONT size=3D2>Multiplexing ? =
Compression=20
    ? Switch Fc or not ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN=20
    class=3D667533714-30042003></SPAN><FONT face=3DTahoma>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D667533714-30042003>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Message=20
    d'origine-----<BR><B>De&nbsp;:</B> Rosamond, Travis=20
    [mailto:trosamond AT uslec DOT com]<BR><B>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</B> mercredi 30 =
avril 2003=20
    16:35<BR><B>=C0&nbsp;:</B> 'Brochart, Fabrice'<BR><B>Cc&nbsp;:</B>=20
    'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Objet&nbsp;:</B> RE: =
[Veritas-bu]=20
    9940B config in a L700<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D667332614-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
      color=3D#0000ff>Well the st.driver is good..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D667332614-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
      color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D667332614-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
      color=3D#0000ff>The patch level is at MP2 on NBU The backup =
network speed is=20
      gigabyt and the backups are full, incr and =
RMAN.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brochart, =
Fabrice=20
        [mailto:BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
April 30,=20
        2003 10:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Rosamond, Travis<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
        'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Veritas-bu]=20
        9940B config in a L700<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D950041214-30042003><FONT =
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        Well,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D950041214-30042003><FONT=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D950041214-30042003><FONT size=3D2>See your =
st driver=20
        (what level of patch) !!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D950041214-30042003><FONT=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D950041214-30042003><FONT size=3D2>What is =
your backup ??=20
        network speed, full, incremental ???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D950041214-30042003><FONT=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D950041214-30042003><FONT=20
        size=3D2>Fabrice</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
          size=3D2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De&nbsp;:</B> =
Rosamond,=20
          Travis [mailto:trosamond AT uslec DOT com]<BR><B>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</B> =
mercredi=20
          30 avril 2003 15:32<BR><B>=C0&nbsp;:</B> 'Brochart,=20
          Fabrice'<BR><B>Cc&nbsp;:</B> 'Veritas-Bu=20
          (E-mail)'<BR><B>Objet&nbsp;:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B =
config in a=20
          L700<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D701332813-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
          color=3D#0000ff>Okay I ran the DD test and did in fact see =
speeds of 69M=20
          per sec....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D701332813-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
          color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D701332813-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
          color=3D#0000ff>It seems to me that NBU is what is slowing =
the devices=20
          down... On Last nights backups I still did not see much =
better than my=20
          DLT drives except for one of my dev boxes which was=20
          27...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D701332813-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
          color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D701332813-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
          color=3D#0000ff>ANY Thoughts on this is needed because it =
just DOES NOT=20
          make sense to me...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D701332813-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
          color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D701332813-30042003><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
          color=3D#0000ff>-Travis</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
            <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
            size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Brochart, Fabrice=20
            [mailto:BrochF AT europe.stortek DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Wednesday, April=20
            30, 2003 5:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Rosamond, =
Travis<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
            'Veritas-Bu (E-mail)'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
9940B=20
            config in a L700<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT =
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
            Travis,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT=20
            size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT size=3D2>All =
your drives are=20
            direct connect or via fiber switch ??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT=20
            size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT size=3D2>It =
seems that all=20
            your NetBackup tuning parameters are good so,did you try, =
as Paul=20
            mentioned it, some trivial tests.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT=20
            size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT size=3D2>Speed =
disk test=20
            with dd command, and tape tests (even with DLT=20
            drive).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT=20
            size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D567093908-30042003><FONT=20
            size=3D2>Fabrice</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
              <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
              face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Message =
d'origine-----<BR><B>De&nbsp;:</B>=20
              Paul Winkeler=20
              =
[mailto:pwinkeler AT pbnj-solutions DOT com]<BR><B>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</B>=20
              mardi 29 avril 2003 21:30<BR><B>=C0&nbsp;:</B> 'Rosamond, =

              Travis'<BR><B>Cc&nbsp;:</B> 'Veritas-Bu=20
              (E-mail)'<BR><B>Objet&nbsp;:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 9940B =
config in=20
              a L700<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT=20
              size=3D2>Travis</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT=20
              size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT size=3D2>I'll =
second what=20
              the two other gentlemen already mentioned.&nbsp; Since =
you don't=20
              say anything about restore operations failing I am =
assuming you=20
              already had the <FONT size=3D2>SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS set =
properly.&nbsp;=20
              The number of buffers is still key=20
              though.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT=20
              size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT size=3D2>Try =
this=20
              experiment on one of your T9940B =
drives:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN =
class=3D937152419-29042003>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT=20
              size=3D2>dd if=3D/dev/zero bs=3D1024k count=3D2048=20
              of=3D/dev/rmt/&lt;num&gt;cbn</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT size=3D2>and =
use iostat=20
              -xn to monitor the write throughput to the drive.&nbsp; I =
have=20
              seen speeds of up to 69MByte/sec this =
way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT=20
              size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT size=3D2>By =
the way what=20
              class sun machine are running this =
on?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT=20
              size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><SPAN class=3D937152419-29042003><FONT=20
              size=3D2>&nbsp;PaulW</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
              <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2><A=20
              =
href=3D"http://www.pbnj-solutions.com/";>www.pbnj-solutions.com</A>=20
              IT Solutions That Stick</FONT></DIV>
              <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2>(216)=20
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