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The problem we have is that an NT Media Server has to make sure there are no
NBU backups running at a certain time because a load of a database will
occur. Sometimes, the backups run late, the scheduled NETSTOP is run which
causes the UNIX Master Server (version 4.5A) to lose connectivity to the
NT's LTID daemon. The backup tapes are left in the shared drives that are
connected on the SAN - they do not unload. The other media servers don't
know the drives have tapes in them so NBU continues to try to load tapes
into those drives. The L700 robot can't load the tapes, so NBU DOWNS the
drives and FREEZES the tapes. You can't run robtest to unload the tapes from
the drives because you get a "no permission" error. Once the DB load on the
NT Media Server is done, and NBU services are automatically started at its
scheduled time, then you can run robtest to work on getting drives unloaded
and getting the drives UP.
Of course, this NETSTOP occurs at 2AM in the morning, so when the above
scenario happens, we have 4-6 DOWN drives for almost 7 hours until the NT
NBU services are restarted on that one Media Server - unfortunately, big
bottlenecks have occured, not to mention all the FROZEN tapes.
What we now plan on doing is use bpdbjobs -kill on NT Media Server to kill
the backup processes first, and then do the NETSTOP. We feel that the NT
kill executable and the bpdown command will not unload the tapes whereas
bpdbjobs -kill should properly shutdown the backup and unload the tape, thus
making the drive free.
Paul G
-----Original Message-----
From: David A. Chapa [mailto:david AT datastaff DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:07 PM
To: Griese, Paul; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] What is the NT equivalent to the UNIX bp.kill_all
command?
can't you do a net stop <service name>
with Nt/2k?
if so, maybe it can be scripted
David
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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Griese, Paul
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:43 AM
To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] What is the NT equivalent to the UNIX bp.kill_all
command?
What is the NT media server's equivalent to the UNIX bp.kill_all command?
Does NT also have a /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies directory?
Paul Griese
Telecheck Services
Houston, TX
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The problem we have is that an NT Media
Server has to make sure there are no NBU backups running at a certain time
because a load of a database will occur. Sometimes, the backups run late, the
scheduled NETSTOP is run which causes the UNIX Master Server (version 4.5A) to
lose connectivity to the NT's LTID daemon. The backup tapes are left in
the shared drives that are connected on the SAN - they do not unload. The
other media servers don't know the drives have tapes in them so NBU
continues to try to load tapes into those drives. The L700 robot can't
load the tapes, so NBU DOWNS the drives and FREEZES the tapes. You can't
run robtest to unload the tapes from the drives because you get a "no
permission" error. Once the DB load on the NT Media Server is done, and
NBU services are automatically started at its scheduled time, then you can run
robtest to work on getting drives unloaded and getting the drives UP.
</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of course, this NETSTOP occurs at 2AM in
the morning, so when the above scenario happens, we have 4-6 DOWN drives for
almost 7 hours until the NT NBU services are restarted on that one Media Server
- unfortunately, big bottlenecks have occured, not to mention all the
FROZEN tapes.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What we now plan on doing is use bpdbjobs
-kill
on NT Media Server to kill the backup processes first, and then do the NETSTOP.
We feel that the NT kill executable and the bpdown command will not unload the
tapes whereas bpdbjobs -kill should properly shutdown the backup and
unload the tape, thus making the drive free.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> David A. Chapa
[mailto:david AT datastaff DOT com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 22, 2003
12:07 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Griese, Paul;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] What is
the NT equivalent to the UNIX bp.kill_all command?</span></font></p>
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David A. Chapa<br>
DataStaff, Inc.<br>
312-683-1144<br>
<a href="http://www.backupscripts.com/";
target="_blank">http://www.BackupScripts.com</a><br>
"where script happens"<br>
Post your questions in our forums<br>
<br>
Co-Author of<br>
Implementing Backup and Recovery:<br>
The Readiness Guide for the Enterprise<br>
published by John Wiley and Sons<br>
A Veritas Solution Series Publication<br>
ISBN:0471227145<br>
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bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Griese, Paul<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 22, 2003
10:43 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] What is the
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What is the NT media server's
equivalent
to the UNIX bp.kill_all command? Does NT also have a
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies directory?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Telecheck Services</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Houston, TX</span></font></p>
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