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First off, I assume you mean: 3.44GB (three-point-four-four) with a
size-on-disk of 1.38G.
Sector size issues would yield a larger size-on-disk, not smaller. This
looks like your catalog is in a compressed drive, meaning it's 3.44G of data
squished into a 1.38G of space.
This should slow your catalog performance but otherwise, as far as I know,
be acceptable.
-M
-----Original Message-----
From: Moses, Darby [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
OK here we go.
Size:344 GB
Size on disk:1.38 GB
If I read this right there is only 1.38GB of data the rest is wasted.
I think this is because of the number of small files combined with the
sector size on the disk.
If I could reduce the sector size I could recover as much as 2GB of space!!!
Are you folks in agreement with that and if so can I reduce the sector size
without reinstalling the whole system?
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:16 PM
To: Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
Nope - it's a unix command.
What you need is the total size of your .../netbackup/db/images directory &
its contents. Is there a windows command for that?
-M
-----Original Message-----
From: Moses, Darby [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
I'm on windows not unix. I don't see a du.exe. Is it called something
else?
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
du -ks /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images
result is in KB.
-M
-----Original Message-----
From: Moses, Darby [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com; mattm AT m-c-s DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
How can get the accurate size of my catalog?
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com [mailto:Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT
com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:50 AM
To: mattm AT m-c-s DOT com; Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
So how big can a catalog get? And what happens if you don't have retention
levels i.e. if you never overwrite data?
-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Matt Moody
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:10 AM
To: Moses, Darby; "veritas-bu"
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
No
The catalog contains your backup image information. Purging the catalog by
deleting files will cause database corruption. The only way to shrink your
catalog is to utilize catalog compression or change your backup policies to
a lower retention level. Daily, the catalog is purged via NBU to remove
expired backup image information.
Matthew Moody
MCSI
-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Moses, Darby
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:44 AM
To: "veritas-bu"
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
Should the catalog be purged? It is taking up alot of space on the disk.
Regards,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.
Phone: (718) 281-6597 Fax: (718) 281-6999
DMOSES AT LEVITON DOT COM WWW.LEVITON.COM
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<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>First
off, I assume you mean: 3.44GB (three-<STRONG>point</STRONG>-four-four) with a
size-on-disk of 1.38G. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sector
size issues would yield a larger size-on-disk, not smaller. This looks
like your catalog is in a compressed drive, meaning it's 3.44G of data squished
into a 1.38G of space. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
should slow your catalog performance but otherwise, as far as I know, be
acceptable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Moses, Darby
[mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2003
10:15
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Donaldson, Mark;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
Catalog
management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OK
here we go.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Size:344 GB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Size
on disk:1.38 GB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If
I
read this right there is only 1.38GB of data the rest is
wasted.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I think this is because of the number of small files combined
with
the sector size on the disk.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If
I
could reduce the sector size I could recover as much as 2GB of
space!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Are
you folks in agreement with that and if so can I reduce the sector size
without reinstalling the whole system?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Donaldson,
Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, March
25, 2003 12:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Moses, Darby;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu]
Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Nope - it's a unix command.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>What you need is the total size of your .../netbackup/db/images
directory & its contents. Is there a windows command for
that?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Moses, Darby
[mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25,
2003 9:58
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Donaldson, Mark;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu]
Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720201017-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I'm on windows not unix. I don't see a du.exe. Is it
called something else?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
Donaldson,
Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday,
March 25, 2003 12:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Moses, Darby;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu]
Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=299510317-25032003>du -ks
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=299510317-25032003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=299510317-25032003>result is in KB.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=299510317-25032003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=299510317-25032003>-M</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Moses, Darby
[mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25,
2003
9:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com; mattm AT
m-c-s DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu]
Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=357295116-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>How can get the accurate size of my
catalog?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com [mailto:Robert.Halton AT jpmchase
DOT com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
mattm AT m-c-s DOT com; Moses, Darby;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu] Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">So how big can a
catalog get? And what happens if you don't have retention
levels i.e. if you never overwrite data?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Matt
Moody<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:10 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Moses, Darby;
"veritas-bu"<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
Catalog management</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">No</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The
catalog
contains your backup image information. Purging
the catalog by deleting files will cause database
corruption. The only way to shrink your catalog is to
utilize catalog compression or change your backup policies to
a
lower retention level. Daily, the catalog is purged via NBU
to
remove expired backup image information.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Matthew
Moody</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">MCSI</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT:
0in"><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Moses,
Darby<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:44 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "veritas-bu"<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu]
Catalog
management</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Should
the catalog be purged? It is taking up alot of space on the
disk.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Regards,<BR><B><I><FONT
color=silver><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: silver; FONT-STYLE:
italic">Darby
Moses</SPAN></FONT></I></B><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=silver size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Operations</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial color=silver size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Leviton
Mfg.</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial color=silver size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone:
(718) 281-6597 Fax: (718) 281-6999</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">DMOSES
AT LEVITON DOT COM
WWW.LEVITON.COM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
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