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[Veritas-bu] Catalog management

2003-03-25 12:38:58
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
From: Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com (Donaldson, Mark)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:38:58 -0700
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First off, I assume you mean: 3.44GB (three-point-four-four) with a
size-on-disk of 1.38G.  
 
Sector size issues would yield a larger size-on-disk, not smaller.  This
looks like your catalog is in a compressed drive, meaning it's 3.44G of data
squished into a 1.38G of space.  
 
This should slow your catalog performance but otherwise, as far as I know,
be acceptable.
 
-M

-----Original Message-----
From: Moses, Darby [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


OK here we go.
Size:344 GB
Size on disk:1.38 GB
If I read this right there is only 1.38GB of data the rest is wasted.
I think this is because of the number of small files combined with the
sector size on the disk.
If I could reduce the sector size I could recover as much as 2GB of space!!!
Are you folks in agreement with that and if so can I reduce the sector size
without reinstalling the whole system?
 
 
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.

-----Original Message-----
From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:16 PM
To: Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


Nope - it's a unix command.
 
What you need is the total size of your .../netbackup/db/images directory &
its contents.  Is there a windows command for that?
 
-M

-----Original Message-----
From: Moses, Darby [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


I'm on windows not unix.  I don't see a du.exe.  Is it called something
else?
 
 
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.

-----Original Message-----
From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


du -ks /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images
 
result is in KB.
 
-M

-----Original Message-----
From: Moses, Darby [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com; mattm AT m-c-s DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


How can get the accurate size of my catalog?
 
 
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com [mailto:Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT 
com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:50 AM
To: mattm AT m-c-s DOT com; Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management



So how big can a catalog get?  And what happens if you don't have retention
levels i.e. if you never overwrite data?

 

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Matt Moody
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:10 AM
To: Moses, Darby; "veritas-bu"
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management

 

No

 

The catalog contains your backup image information.  Purging the catalog by
deleting files will cause database corruption.  The only way to shrink your
catalog is to utilize catalog compression or change your backup policies to
a lower retention level.  Daily, the catalog is purged via NBU to remove
expired backup image information.

 

Matthew Moody

MCSI

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Moses, Darby
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:44 AM
To: "veritas-bu"
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management

Should the catalog be purged?  It is taking up alot of space on the disk.

 

Regards,
Darby Moses
Operations 
Leviton Mfg.
Phone: (718) 281-6597 Fax: (718) 281-6999
DMOSES AT LEVITON DOT COM WWW.LEVITON.COM 

 


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<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>First 
off, I assume you mean: 3.44GB (three-<STRONG>point</STRONG>-four-four) with a 
size-on-disk of 1.38G.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Sector 
size issues would yield a larger size-on-disk, not smaller.&nbsp; This looks 
like your catalog is in a compressed drive, meaning it's 3.44G of data squished 
into a 1.38G of space.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This 
should slow your catalog performance but otherwise, as far as I know, be 
acceptable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585203517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Moses, Darby 
  [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2003 
10:15 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Donaldson, Mark; 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Catalog 
  management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OK 
  here we go.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Size:344 GB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Size 
  on disk:1.38 GB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If 
I 
  read this right there is only 1.38GB of data the rest is 
  wasted.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>I&nbsp;think this is because of the number of small files combined 
with 
  the sector size on the disk.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If 
I 
  could reduce the sector size I could recover as much as 2GB of 
  space!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Are 
  you folks in agreement with that and if so can I reduce the sector size 
  without reinstalling the whole system?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Donaldson, 
    Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
Tuesday, March 
    25, 2003 12:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Moses, Darby; 
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
    Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Nope - it's a unix command.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>What you need is the total size of your .../netbackup/db/images 
    directory &amp; its contents.&nbsp; Is there a windows command for 
    that?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Moses, Darby 
      [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 
2003 9:58 
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> Donaldson, Mark; 
      veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
      Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=720201017-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>I'm on windows not unix.&nbsp; I don't see a du.exe.&nbsp; Is it 
      called something else?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV></DIV>
        <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
        face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
Donaldson, 
        Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
Tuesday, 
        March 25, 2003 12:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Moses, Darby; 
        veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
        Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
        class=299510317-25032003>du -ks 
        /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
        class=299510317-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
        class=299510317-25032003>result is in KB.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
        class=299510317-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
        class=299510317-25032003>-M</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
          size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Moses, Darby 
          [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 
2003 
          9:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com; mattm AT 
m-c-s DOT com; 
          veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
          Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=357295116-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
          size=2>How can get&nbsp;the accurate size of my 
          catalog?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
            <DIV></DIV>
            <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
            face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
            Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com [mailto:Robert.Halton AT jpmchase 
DOT com] 
            <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
            mattm AT m-c-s DOT com; Moses, Darby; 
            veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
            [Veritas-bu] Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV class=Section1>
            <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue 
            size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">So how big can a 
            catalog get?&nbsp; And what happens if you don't have retention 
            levels i.e. if you never overwrite data?</SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue 
            size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma 
            size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original 
            Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> 
            veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
            [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN 
            style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Matt 
            Moody<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 
            Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:10 AM<BR><B><SPAN 
            style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Moses, Darby; 
            "veritas-bu"<BR><B><SPAN 
            style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
            Catalog management</SPAN></FONT></P>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
            face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
            <DIV>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
            color=blue size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">No</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
            face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
            color=blue size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The 
catalog 
            contains your backup image information.&nbsp; Purging 
            the&nbsp;catalog by deleting files will cause database 
            corruption.&nbsp; The only way to shrink your&nbsp;catalog is to 
            utilize&nbsp;catalog compression or change your backup policies to 
a 
            lower retention level.&nbsp; Daily, the catalog is purged via NBU 
to 
            remove expired backup image information.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
            face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
            color=blue size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Matthew 
            Moody</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
            color=blue size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">MCSI</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE 
            style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in">
              <P class=MsoNormal 
              style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 
0in"><FONT 
              face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original 
              Message-----<BR><B><SPAN 
              style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> 
              veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
              [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B><SPAN 
              style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Moses, 
              Darby<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 
              Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:44 AM<BR><B><SPAN 
              style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "veritas-bu"<BR><B><SPAN 
              style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] 
Catalog 
              management</SPAN></FONT></P>
              <DIV>
              <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
              size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Should 
              the catalog be purged?&nbsp; It is taking up alot of space on the 
              disk.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
              <DIV>
              <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
              face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
              style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
              <P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN 
              style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">Regards,<BR><B><I><FONT 
              color=silver><SPAN 
              style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: silver; FONT-STYLE: 
italic">Darby 
              Moses</SPAN></FONT></I></B><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial 
              color=silver size=2><SPAN 
              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">Operations</SPAN></FONT> 
              <BR><FONT face=Arial color=silver size=2><SPAN 
              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">Leviton 
              Mfg.</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial color=silver size=2><SPAN 
              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone: 
              (718) 281-6597 Fax: (718) 281-6999</SPAN></FONT><FONT 
              face=Arial><SPAN 
              style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial 
              color=black size=2><SPAN 
              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">DMOSES 
AT LEVITON DOT COM 
              WWW.LEVITON.COM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN 
              style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
              <DIV>
              <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
              face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
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