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[Veritas-bu] Catalog management

2003-03-25 12:15:06
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management
From: DMoses AT leviton DOT com (Moses, Darby)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:15:06 -0500
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OK here we go.
Size:344 GB
Size on disk:1.38 GB
If I read this right there is only 1.38GB of data the rest is wasted.
I think this is because of the number of small files combined with the
sector size on the disk.
If I could reduce the sector size I could recover as much as 2GB of space!!!
Are you folks in agreement with that and if so can I reduce the sector size
without reinstalling the whole system?
 
 
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.

-----Original Message-----
From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:16 PM
To: Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


Nope - it's a unix command.
 
What you need is the total size of your .../netbackup/db/images directory &
its contents.  Is there a windows command for that?
 
-M

-----Original Message-----
From: Moses, Darby [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


I'm on windows not unix.  I don't see a du.exe.  Is it called something
else?
 
 
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.

-----Original Message-----
From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


du -ks /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images
 
result is in KB.
 
-M

-----Original Message-----
From: Moses, Darby [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com; mattm AT m-c-s DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management


How can get the accurate size of my catalog?
 
 
Thanks,
Darby Moses
Operations
Leviton Mfg.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com [mailto:Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT 
com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:50 AM
To: mattm AT m-c-s DOT com; Moses, Darby; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management



So how big can a catalog get?  And what happens if you don't have retention
levels i.e. if you never overwrite data?

 

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Matt Moody
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:10 AM
To: Moses, Darby; "veritas-bu"
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management

 

No

 

The catalog contains your backup image information.  Purging the catalog by
deleting files will cause database corruption.  The only way to shrink your
catalog is to utilize catalog compression or change your backup policies to
a lower retention level.  Daily, the catalog is purged via NBU to remove
expired backup image information.

 

Matthew Moody

MCSI

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Moses, Darby
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:44 AM
To: "veritas-bu"
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management

Should the catalog be purged?  It is taking up alot of space on the disk.

 

Regards,
Darby Moses
Operations 
Leviton Mfg.
Phone: (718) 281-6597 Fax: (718) 281-6999
DMOSES AT LEVITON DOT COM WWW.LEVITON.COM 

 


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<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OK 
here we go.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Size:344 GB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Size 
on disk:1.38 GB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If I 
read this right there is only 1.38GB of data the rest is 
wasted.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>I&nbsp;think this is because of the number of small files combined with 
the sector size on the disk.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If I 
could reduce the sector size I could recover as much as 2GB of 
space!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=685542317-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Are 
you folks in agreement with that and if so can I reduce the sector size without 
reinstalling the whole system?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Donaldson, Mark 
  [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 
March 25, 
  2003 12:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Moses, Darby; 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Catalog 
  management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Nope 
  - it's a unix command.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>What 
  you need is the total size of your .../netbackup/db/images directory &amp; 
its 
  contents.&nbsp; Is there a windows command for that?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=360201517-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Moses, Darby 
    [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2003 
9:58 
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> Donaldson, Mark; 
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
    Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=720201017-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>I'm on windows not unix.&nbsp; I don't see a du.exe.&nbsp; Is it 
    called something else?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
      face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Donaldson, 
      Mark [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT experianems DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
Tuesday, 
      March 25, 2003 12:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Moses, Darby; 
      veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
      Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=299510317-25032003>du -ks 
      /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=299510317-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=299510317-25032003>result is in KB.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=299510317-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
      class=299510317-25032003>-M</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
        size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Moses, Darby 
        [mailto:DMoses AT leviton DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 
2003 9:39 
        AM<BR><B>To:</B> Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com; mattm AT m-c-s DOT 
com; 
        veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
        Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=357295116-25032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>How can get&nbsp;the accurate size of my 
        catalog?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Darby Moses</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Operations</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leviton Mfg.</FONT></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV></DIV>
          <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
          face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
          Robert.Halton AT jpmchase DOT com [mailto:Robert.Halton AT jpmchase 
DOT com] 
          <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:50 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
          mattm AT m-c-s DOT com; Moses, Darby; 
          veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
          Catalog management<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV class=Section1>
          <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue 
          size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">So how big can a 
          catalog get?&nbsp; And what happens if you don't have retention 
levels 
          i.e. if you never overwrite data?</SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue 
          size=2><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
          <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma 
          size=2><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original 
          Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> 
          veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
          [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN 
          style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Matt 
          Moody<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, 
          March 25, 2003 9:10 AM<BR><B><SPAN 
          style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Moses, Darby; 
          "veritas-bu"<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: 
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> 
          RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog management</SPAN></FONT></P>
          <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
          face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
          <DIV>
          <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
          color=blue size=2><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">No</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
          face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
          color=blue size=2><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The catalog 
          contains your backup image information.&nbsp; Purging 
the&nbsp;catalog 
          by deleting files will cause database corruption.&nbsp; The only way 
          to shrink your&nbsp;catalog is to utilize&nbsp;catalog compression or 
          change your backup policies to a lower retention level.&nbsp; Daily, 
          the catalog is purged via NBU to remove expired backup image 
          information.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
          face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
          color=blue size=2><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Matthew 
          Moody</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
          color=blue size=2><SPAN 
          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">MCSI</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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            face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original 
            Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> 
            veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
            [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B><SPAN 
            style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Moses, 
            Darby<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 
            Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:44 AM<BR><B><SPAN 
            style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "veritas-bu"<BR><B><SPAN 
            style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] Catalog 
            management</SPAN></FONT></P>
            <DIV>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial 
            size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Should the 
            catalog be purged?&nbsp; It is taking up alot of space on the 
            disk.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
            <DIV>
            <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT 
            face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
            <P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,<BR><B><I><FONT 
            color=silver><SPAN 
            style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: silver; FONT-STYLE: italic">Darby 
            Moses</SPAN></FONT></I></B><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial 
            color=silver size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY: 
Arial">Operations</SPAN></FONT> 
            <BR><FONT face=Arial color=silver size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Leviton 
            Mfg.</SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial color=silver size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: silver; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone: 
            (718) 281-6597 Fax: (718) 281-6999</SPAN></FONT><FONT 
            face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
            face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN 
            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">DMOSES AT 
LEVITON DOT COM 
            WWW.LEVITON.COM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN 
            style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
            <DIV>
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