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Thanks, that jogged my memory too. I was thinking of Disk ARchive, but with
your description
I remember having seen this with a couple of other backup software vendors.
Mark Eisenhardt
-----Original Message-----
From: Kennedy, Jeffrey [mailto:jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:02 PM
To: Bob Grabbe; Andreas.Hohmann AT diwega DOT ch;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; Len.Boyle AT sas DOT com
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dar
Direct Access Restore. For NDMP under Veritas all restores are a full
seek along the tape set until the file is found. So if file 987 on tape
3 of a 5 tape set is what you need, you will scan tape 1 and 2 before
loading tape 3 and then scanning to file 987. With DAR you will load
tape 3 and access file 987 directly, or at least within a 2gb range.
All other platforms already do this, but NDMP as a protocol didn't
support this until v3, but Veritas is the last major backup software
vendor to support it. NDMP v3 is a few years old now, v4 is in
committee, and v5 is in the lab.
~JK
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Grabbe [mailto:GRABBEB AT dominos DOT com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:56 AM
> To: Andreas.Hohmann AT diwega DOT ch; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
> edu;
Kennedy,
> Jeffrey; Len.Boyle AT sas DOT com
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dar
>
> Can someone give a synopsis of what DAR is ? I have 4.5 and ndmp, so
if
> it's something I could use, I'd like to know.
> Thanks
>
>
> Robert Grabbe
> Dominos Pizza LLC
> grabbeb AT dominos DOT com
>
> >>> "Kennedy, Jeffrey" <jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com> 1/14/03 12:11:01 PM >>>
> The only good thing about all this is that 4.5 (MP0?) has the hooks
> needed to use DAR. So when the patch does finally come out, any NDMP
> backups you have made with 4.5 will be DAR'able, not just 4.5 MP3. A
> decent incentive for NDMP customers to switch to 4.5 as soon as
> possible
> to get all those backups in 4.5 format.
>
>
>
> ~JK
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Boyle [mailto:Len.Boyle AT sas DOT com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:30 AM
> To: Andreas Hohmann; Veritas (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dar
>
>
>
> Hello Andreas
>
>
>
> Last month at a local netbackup users meeting, Veritas reported that
> DAR
> is included in the next feature pack/service pack. This feature pack
> is
> called MP3 and was to be rtm in early January with media available in
> early February.
>
> These are dates as given last month for the USA.
>
> Veritas did not say if the worldwide dates would be different.
>
> And I forgot to ask if this update would be available on the veritas
> download site or if we would have to order a cdrom.
>
>
>
> len boyle
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Hohmann [mailto:Andreas.Hohmann AT diwega DOT ch]
> Sent: Tue 1/14/2003 2:33 AM
> To: Veritas (E-mail)
> Cc:
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] dar
>
> Hello
>
> Does anybody have some information on DAR support in NBU 4.5?
> Last time I heard from Veritas they were talking about a patch
> to be out last October.
> I regularly check their website but haven't found anything yet.
>
>
> Thanks & regards
>
> Andreas Hohmann
>
> Diwega GmbH
> Birmensdorferstr. 24
> CH-8902 Urdorf
>
> Tel. +41- (0)1 734 6644
> Fax. +41- (0)1 734 6645
> mailto:andreas.hohmann AT diwega DOT ch
> http://www.diwega.ch
>
>
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks, that jogged my memory too. I was thinking of Disk
ARchive, but with your description</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I remember having seen this with a couple of other backup
software vendors.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Mark Eisenhardt</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Kennedy, Jeffrey [<A HREF="mailto:jkennedy AT qualcomm
DOT com">mailto:jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:02 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Bob Grabbe; Andreas.Hohmann AT diwega DOT ch;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; Len.Boyle AT sas DOT
com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dar</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Direct Access Restore. For NDMP under Veritas all
restores are a full</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>seek along the tape set until the file is found. So if
file 987 on tape</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>3 of a 5 tape set is what you need, you will scan tape 1 and 2
before</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>loading tape 3 and then scanning to file 987. With DAR
you will load</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>tape 3 and access file 987 directly, or at least within a 2gb
range.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>All other platforms already do this, but NDMP as a protocol
didn't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>support this until v3, but Veritas is the last major backup
software</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>vendor to support it. NDMP v3 is a few years old now, v4
is in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>committee, and v5 is in the lab.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>~JK</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Bob Grabbe [<A HREF="mailto:GRABBEB AT dominos DOT
com">mailto:GRABBEB AT dominos DOT com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:56 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Andreas.Hohmann AT diwega DOT ch; veritas-bu AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Kennedy,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Jeffrey; Len.Boyle AT sas DOT com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dar</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Can someone give a synopsis of what DAR is ? I have 4.5
and ndmp, so</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>if</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> it's something I could use, I'd like to know.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Thanks</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Robert Grabbe</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Dominos Pizza LLC</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> grabbeb AT dominos DOT com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >>> "Kennedy, Jeffrey" <jkennedy AT
qualcomm DOT com> 1/14/03 12:11:01 PM >>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> The only good thing about all this is that 4.5 (MP0?) has
the hooks</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> needed to use DAR. So when the patch does finally
come out, any NDMP</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> backups you have made with 4.5 will be DAR'able, not just
4.5 MP3. A</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> decent incentive for NDMP customers to switch to 4.5 as
soon as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> possible</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to get all those backups in 4.5 format.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ~JK</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Len Boyle [<A HREF="mailto:Len.Boyle AT sas DOT
com">mailto:Len.Boyle AT sas DOT com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:30 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Andreas Hohmann; Veritas (E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] dar</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Hello Andreas</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Last month at a local netbackup users meeting, Veritas
reported that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> DAR</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> is included in the next feature pack/service pack. This
feature pack</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> called MP3 and was to be rtm in early January with media
available in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> early February.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> These are dates as given last month for the USA.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Veritas did not say if the worldwide dates would be
different.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> And I forgot to ask if this update would be available on
the veritas</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> download site or if we would have to order a cdrom.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> len boyle</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original
Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Andreas Hohmann [<A
HREF="mailto:Andreas.Hohmann AT diwega DOT ch">mailto:Andreas.Hohmann AT diwega
DOT ch</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Tue 1/14/2003 2:33
AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Veritas (E-mail)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Cc:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: [Veritas-bu]
dar</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Hello</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Does anybody have some
information on DAR support in NBU 4.5?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Last time I heard from
Veritas they were talking about a patch</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to be out last October.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I regularly check their
website but haven't found anything yet.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Thanks & regards</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Andreas Hohmann</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Diwega GmbH</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Birmensdorferstr. 24</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> CH-8902 Urdorf</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Tel. +41- (0)1 734
6644</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Fax. +41- (0)1 734
6645</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> <A
HREF="mailto:andreas.hohmann AT diwega DOT ch">mailto:andreas.hohmann AT diwega
DOT ch</A></FONT>
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HREF="http://www.diwega.ch"; TARGET="_blank">http://www.diwega.ch</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
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