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Thanks for all the help. We have the backup working fine now.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Kennedy, Jeffrey=20
To: Mark Kilpatrick ; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup fails on SnapMirrored Volumes
1) Correct.
2) No
When an NDMP backup is initiated on a read/write volume WAFL takes a =
snapshot for consistency and then dumps the contents of that snapshot. =
To take a snapshot the volume must be read/write since it's writing =
information to the volume (albeit the snapshot volume but it's all the =
same really). If the volume is read only no snapshot can be taken. =
However, you can use an existing snapshot to perform the dump just like =
you use a newly created snapshot in a r/w volume. A snapshot is a =
snapshot is a snapshot.
If you point NBU to an existing snapshot WAFL knows the difference, so =
it will just initiate a dump.
~JK
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kilpatrick [mailto:mark.kilpatrick AT ttt DOT ie]=20
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:00 AM
To: Kennedy, Jeffrey; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup fails on SnapMirrored Volumes
What is the correct way to configure the client to back up =
/vol/common/.snapshot/nightly.0 . =20
1) Do I just enter this path in the file list of the client ? =20
2) Do I need to change anything else regarding my client configuration =
or Policy type?
I thought that whenever I ran a backup with policy/client type NDMP it =
issued a Dump command on the filer which in turn caused a snapshot to =
take place.=20
But my aim is to first specify a path to the snapshot folder and =
secondly for the Backup not to issue a snapshot command. Maybe I am =
missing something - like the backup, by default, will not try to take a =
snapshot of a snapshot?!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Kennedy, Jeffrey=20
To: Mark Kilpatrick ; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup fails on SnapMirrored Volumes
I'm imagining that vol0 is not snapmirrored. :-]
You have to back up a snapshot rather than the volume itself on a =
snapmirrored volume. This is due to the fact that a snapmirrored volume =
is read only and cannot therefore have a snapshot created against it.
You would need to backup something like the following:
/vol/common/.snapshot/nightly.0
This will work.
~JK
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kilpatrick [mailto:mark.kilpatrick AT ttt DOT ie]=20
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:25 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup fails on SnapMirrored Volumes
Hi, Can anyone backup Active SnapMirrored
destination volumes on a netapp filer? =20
Configuration:
2 * NetApp F820 Filers with OnTap 6.1.3R2
W2000 SrvPk3 is Master server
NBU 4.5 MP2 on Master server
SnapMirror is in use to snap two volumes from Filer 1to Filer 2
Filer1
I can successfully backup all volumes on Filer1...
/vol/vol0/
/vol/common/
/vol/users/
Filer2:
Two out of three of the volume backups fail on Filer2.
The error is NDMP backup failure (99) - suggesting that the file =
list is not vaild!
The two volumes which fail are snapmirrored (active).=20
/vol/vol0/ is successful as is any extension of the file path, i.e =
/vol/vol0/home/ .
My configured file list is valid and identical to Filer1.
Thanks for any help received.
Mark
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all the help. We have =
the backup=20
working fine now.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com =
href=3D"mailto:jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com">Kennedy,=20
Jeffrey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmark.kilpatrick AT ttt DOT ie=20
href=3D"mailto:mark.kilpatrick AT ttt DOT ie">Mark Kilpatrick</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dveritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
=
href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu AT mailman
DOT eng.=
auburn.edu</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 06, 2002 =
2:28=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP =
backup=20
fails on SnapMirrored Volumes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1)<FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Correct.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2)<FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">No</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When an =
NDMP backup=20
is initiated on a read/write volume WAFL takes a snapshot for =
consistency and=20
then dumps the contents of that snapshot. To take a snapshot the =
volume=20
must be read/write since it’s writing information to the volume =
(albeit the=20
snapshot volume but it’s all the same really). If the =
volume is read=20
only no snapshot can be taken. However, you can use an existing =
snapshot=20
to perform the dump just like you use a newly created snapshot in a =
r/w=20
volume. A snapshot is a snapshot is a =
snapshot.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you =
point NBU to=20
an existing snapshot WAFL knows the difference, so it will just =
initiate a=20
dump.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">~JK</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
Mark=20
Kilpatrick [mailto:mark.kilpatrick AT ttt DOT ie] <BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, December 06, 2002 =
3:00=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Kennedy, =
Jeffrey;=20
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP =
backup=20
fails on SnapMirrored Volumes</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What is the correct way =
to=20
configure the client to back up <FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: navy">/vol/common/.snapshot/nightly.0 . =20
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">1) Do I=20
just enter this path in the file list of the client =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">? =
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black">2) Do I need to=20
change anything else regarding my client configuration or Policy=20
type?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I=20
thought that whenever I ran a backup with policy/client type NDMP it =
issued a=20
Dump command on the filer which in turn caused a snapshot to =
take=20
place. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">But my=20
aim is to first specify a path to the snapshot folder and secondly for =
the=20
Backup not to issue a snapshot command. Maybe I am missing =
something -=20
like the backup, by default, will not try to take a snapshot of a=20
snapshot?!</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message -----=20
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black">
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: =
0.5in"><B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
title=3Djkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com =
href=3D"mailto:jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com">Kennedy,=20
Jeffrey</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A=20
title=3Dmark.kilpatrick AT ttt DOT ie =
href=3D"mailto:mark.kilpatrick AT ttt DOT ie">Mark=20
Kilpatrick</A> ; <A title=3Dveritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
=
href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu AT mailman
DOT eng.=
auburn.edu</A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">=20
Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:14 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> RE:=20
[Veritas-bu] NDMP backup fails on SnapMirrored=20
Volumes</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I’m=20
imagining that vol0 is not snapmirrored. :-]</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">You=20
have to back up a snapshot rather than the volume itself on a =
snapmirrored=20
volume. This is due to the fact that a snapmirrored volume is =
read=20
only and cannot therefore have a snapshot created against=20
it.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">You=20
would need to backup something like the following:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">/vol/common/.snapshot/nightly.0</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">This=20
will work.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">~JK</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B> Mark=20
Kilpatrick [mailto:mark.kilpatrick AT ttt DOT ie] <BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 05, =
2002 11:25=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] NDMP =
backup fails=20
on SnapMirrored Volumes</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi, Can anyone =
backup=20
Active SnapMirrored<BR>destination volumes on a netapp =
filer? =20
<BR><BR>Configuration:<BR>2 * NetApp F820 Filers with OnTap =
6.1.3R2<BR>W2000=20
SrvPk3 is Master server<BR>NBU 4.5 MP2 on Master =
server<BR><BR>SnapMirror is=20
in use to snap two volumes from Filer 1to Filer 2<BR><BR>Filer1<BR>I =
can=20
successfully backup all volumes on=20
=
Filer1...<BR>/vol/vol0/<BR>/vol/common/<BR>/vol/users/<BR><BR>Filer2:<BR>=
Two=20
out of three of the volume backups fail on Filer2.<BR><BR>The error =
is NDMP=20
backup failure (99) - suggesting that the file list is not=20
vaild!<BR>The two volumes which fail are snapmirrored (active).=20
<BR>/vol/vol0/ is successful as is any extension of the file path, =
i.e=20
/vol/vol0/home/ .<BR>My configured file list is valid and identical =
to=20
Filer1.<BR><BR><BR>Thanks for any help=20
=
received.<BR><BR>Mark</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQU=
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