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[Veritas-bu] Choice of platform for Master Server

2002-09-25 14:56:48
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Choice of platform for Master Server
From: Quarantine AT GSCCCA DOT ORG (Quarantine)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:56:48 -0400
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We have a master/media server (Win2K) and 2 media servers (Win2K DC) using
SSO with FC tape drives.  I haven't seen any problems with Windows not being
able to access the drives.  Also, we haven't hit that proverbial wall yet.
:-)  While I won't argue the point of Windows vs. *nix, I will say that I've
been very happy with our Windows implementation.  I agree with everybody
else - stick to what you know.
 
Matt
 
-----Original Message-----
From: White, Steve [mailto:Steve.White AT PacifiCorp DOT com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:50 PM
To: 'Mark Riedesel'; Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Choice of platform for Master Server



Dude whoever told you that the "Windows version is better supported and has
more features" was smoking some really good stuff...hope it's legal :-)

There are any number of things to consider when choosing your platform,
among them the skill sets of the folks that will be doing the bulk of the
administration.  If your NetBackup environment will be primarily supported
by folks with UNIX skills, go with a UNIX master server (I would suggest
Solaris).  If, on the other hand, your primary care givers will be Windows
admins, then I'd strongly think about going with Windows.  That being said,
however, there are some other considerations...

1. Solaris servers tend to scale better.  A Sun V880 makes a screaming
NetBackup server whereas the Windows servers tend to hit the wall faster.

2. A lot of the scripts and other "goodies" available from people on the
mailing list are shell scripts, although I know a number of folks doing
things in Perl or Windows batch scripting.

3. I think there are still issues with having a stable Fibre tape
environment if you use Windows with its habit of changing drive mappings on
you.

I prefer the Solaris solution, but then that's what I know best so my
judgment could be considered subjective :-) 

FWIW 

Steve White 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Riedesel [mailto:mried AT MIT DOT EDU <mailto:mried AT MIT DOT EDU> 
] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:16 AM 
To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Choice of platform for Master Server 


We are about to purchase Vertias NetBackup DataCenter for our mix of 
Solaris, Windows and Linux 
servers and our Oracle databases.  Our IT director favors Windows for 
the master server since it is less expensive and he was told it is the 
better choice 
since the Windows version is better supported and has more features. 

However, I am going to be responsible for administering this system and 
while I have many 
years experience with Unix administration, I have only user-level 
experience with 
Windows.  Would I be well-advised to advocate using a Solaris master 
server instead, 
or is Windows really the better choice?  We have only the Dell and 
Veritas salesmen's advice to 
go on at this point. 

Thanks, 

Mark 

Mark Riedesel 
Systems Manager/DBA 
Sloan School of Management 
MIT 
mried AT mit DOT edu 


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<DIV><SPAN class=203205318-25092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We 
have a master/media server (Win2K) and 2 media servers (Win2K DC) using SSO 
with 
FC tape drives.&nbsp; I haven't seen any problems with Windows not being able 
to 
access the drives.&nbsp; Also, we haven't hit that proverbial wall yet.&nbsp; 
:-)&nbsp; While I won't argue the point of Windows vs. *nix, I will say that 
I've been very happy with our Windows implementation.&nbsp; I agree with 
everybody else - stick to what you know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=203205318-25092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=203205318-25092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Matt</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=203205318-25092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> White, Steve 
[mailto:Steve.White AT PacifiCorp DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 
September 25, 
2002 2:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Mark Riedesel'; 
Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
Choice of 
platform for Master Server<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Dude whoever told you that the "Windows version is better 
supported and has more features" was smoking some really good stuff...hope it's 
legal :-)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>There are any number of things to consider when choosing your 
platform, among them the skill sets of the folks that will be doing the bulk of 
the administration.&nbsp; If your NetBackup environment will be primarily 
supported by folks with UNIX skills, go with a UNIX master server (I would 
suggest Solaris).&nbsp; If, on the other hand, your primary care givers will be 
Windows admins, then I'd strongly think about going with Windows.&nbsp; That 
being said, however, there are some other considerations...</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>1. Solaris servers tend to scale better.&nbsp; A Sun V880 makes 
a screaming NetBackup server whereas the Windows servers tend to hit the wall 
faster.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>2. A lot of the scripts and other "goodies" available from 
people on the mailing list are shell scripts, although I know a number of folks 
doing things in Perl or Windows batch scripting.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>3. I think there are still issues with having a stable Fibre 
tape environment if you use Windows with its habit of changing drive mappings 
on 
you.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>I prefer the Solaris solution, but then that's what I know best 
so my judgment could be considered subjective :-)</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>FWIW</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Steve White</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: Mark 
Riedesel [<A href="mailto:mried AT MIT DOT EDU">mailto:mried AT MIT DOT 
EDU</A>]</FONT> 
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:16 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT 
size=2>To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT> <BR><FONT 
size=2>Subject: 
[Veritas-bu] Choice of platform for Master Server</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>We are about to purchase Vertias NetBackup DataCenter for our 
mix of </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Solaris, Windows and Linux</FONT> <BR><FONT 
size=2>servers and our Oracle databases.&nbsp; Our IT director favors Windows 
for</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>the master server since it is less expensive and he 
was told it is the </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>better choice</FONT> <BR><FONT 
size=2>since the Windows version is better supported and has more 
features.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>However, I am going to be responsible for administering this 
system and </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>while I have many</FONT> <BR><FONT 
size=2>years experience with Unix administration, I have only user-level 
</FONT><BR><FONT size=2>experience with</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Windows.&nbsp; 
Would I be well-advised to advocate using a Solaris master </FONT><BR><FONT 
size=2>server instead,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>or is Windows really the better 
choice?&nbsp; We have only the Dell and </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Veritas 
salesmen's advice to</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>go on at this point.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Thanks,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Mark</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Mark Riedesel</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Systems 
Manager/DBA</FONT> 
<BR><FONT size=2>Sloan School of Management</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>MIT</FONT> 
<BR><FONT size=2>mried AT mit DOT edu</FONT> </P>
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