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[Veritas-bu] OTM and PST files.

2002-06-06 09:18:24
Subject: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST files.
From: limelite AT ti DOT com (Young, Ken)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 08:18:24 -0500
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OFM supports most backup software. See
http://www.stbernard.com/products/ofm/products_ofm.asp for more info. 

-----Original Message-----
From: paulg AT cdcna DOT com
To: Barda, Boaz; 'paulg AT CDCNA DOT COM'
Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Sent: 6/6/02 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST files.

No, it works with NBU as well as most of the other backup software.

paulg

On Jun 6,  2:43pm, Barda, Boaz wrote:
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST files.
>
> St.Bernard OFM can not b used with Netbacup its for backup exec no?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paulg AT CDCNA DOT COM [mailto:paulg AT CDCNA DOT COM]
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:29 PM
> To: Barda, Boaz
> Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST files.
>
>
> Unfortunately, on systems that are very acrive or have a lot of
locally
> attached storage that is being used OTM may not work.  Even with
finetuning
> our
> NT file server was not able to utilize OTM.  We now use St.Bernard
OFM, no
> issues so far.
>
> paulg
>
> On Jun 6, 11:30am, Barda, Boaz wrote:
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST files.
> > Ok... I followed all Veritas tech notes on how to fine tune the OTM
. I
> > still have some, but not all, PST files that cant be backed up.
about 5%
> > .....
> > Did anyone hae that problem where some get backed up and some not?!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anderson, David [mailto:anderson.david AT scrippshealth DOT org]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:21 AM
> > To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST files.
> >
> >
> > First let me say that I'm not the expert on OTM.  We are a new
> installation
> > and are actually using ver 4.5 at this time (tried 3.4.1, with
problems in
> > SSO).  From calls and complaints to Tech Support, sluggish though
they
> are,
> > the consensus that I'm getting is that there is a difference in
"open
> > files".
> >
> > Open files that are Locked (but not exclusively) are backup-able (is
that
> a
> > word??).  However there must be a static (quiescent) time that must
be met
> > (it is set in the registry on 3.4).  If it isn't static for at least
that
> > time setting, it's a no-go.
> >
> > However, files that are locked exclusively (such as a database,
Exchange,
> MS
> > SQL, Oracle), it is never possible, no matter what the "quiescent"
time.
> If
> > you really want all those files, the database or other offending
service
> > needs to be shutdown (that is, the files get unlocked the hard way).
> >
> > PST files fall under "locked, but not exclusively" category.
> >
> > David Anderson
> > ScrippsHealth Information Services
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > ----  Original Message snippet
> > -
> > >>Shouldn't OTM solve the problem of backing up opened PST files ?
> >
> > >>It is not an exchange server we are backing up here but the user's
local
> > pst
> > >>files. DO I need another module?!
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Veritas-bu maillist  -  Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
> >-- End of excerpt from Barda, Boaz
>
>-- End of excerpt from Barda, Boaz


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: paulg AT cdcna DOT com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Barda, Boaz; 'paulg AT CDCNA DOT COM'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 6/6/02 6:46 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST files.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>No, it works with NBU as well as most of the other =
backup software.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>paulg</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Jun 6,&nbsp; 2:43pm, Barda, Boaz wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST =
files.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; St.Bernard OFM can not b used with Netbacup its =
for backup exec no?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: paulg AT CDCNA DOT COM [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:paulg AT CDCNA DOT COM">mailto:paulg AT CDCNA DOT COM</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:29 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Barda, Boaz</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST =
files.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Unfortunately, on systems that are very acrive =
or have a lot of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>locally</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; attached storage that is being used OTM may not =
work.&nbsp; Even with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>finetuning</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; our</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; NT file server was not able to utilize =
OTM.&nbsp; We now use St.Bernard</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>OFM, no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; issues so far.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; paulg</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; On Jun 6, 11:30am, Barda, Boaz wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST =
files.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Ok... I followed all Veritas tech notes on =
how to fine tune the OTM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>. I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; still have some, but not all, PST files =
that cant be backed up.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>about 5%</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; .....</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Did anyone hae that problem where some get =
backed up and some not?!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; From: Anderson, David [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:anderson.david AT scrippshealth DOT org">mailto:anderson.david@s=
crippshealth.org</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:21 =
AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; To: =
'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Subject: [Veritas-bu] OTM and PST =
files.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; First let me say that I'm not the expert =
on OTM.&nbsp; We are a new</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; installation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; and are actually using ver 4.5 at this =
time (tried 3.4.1, with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>problems in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; SSO).&nbsp; From calls and complaints to =
Tech Support, sluggish though</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>they</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; are,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; the consensus that I'm getting is that =
there is a difference in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;open</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; files&quot;.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Open files that are Locked (but not =
exclusively) are backup-able (is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; word??).&nbsp; However there must be a =
static (quiescent) time that must</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>be met</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; (it is set in the registry on 3.4).&nbsp; =
If it isn't static for at least</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; time setting, it's a no-go.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; However, files that are locked exclusively =
(such as a database,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Exchange,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; MS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; SQL, Oracle), it is never possible, no =
matter what the &quot;quiescent&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>time.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; If</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; you really want all those files, the =
database or other offending</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>service</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; needs to be shutdown (that is, the files =
get unlocked the hard way).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; PST files fall under &quot;locked, but not =
exclusively&quot; category.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; David Anderson</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; ScrippsHealth Information Services</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; =
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; ----&nbsp; Original Message snippet</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; -</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;Shouldn't OTM solve the problem of =
backing up opened PST files ?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;It is not an exchange server we =
are backing up here but the user's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>local</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; pst</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;files. DO I need another =
module?!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; =
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