On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:55:01AM -0500, Wilhelm, Patrick wrote:
Well, Unix media servers didn't have much problems with a library
backing up up to 10 times more than NT.
We've been looking for hardware problems at least for 5 months,
since we upgraded to NB_34_2 the problem gone. And we started getting
errors when we upgraded to NB_34_1.
> Can you say more about the read/write errors on WinNT media servers with
> patch NB_34_1. That's where we are and we've definitely seen some of
> those errors, but have been troubleshooting hardware. What are the
> known issues and workarounds?
>
> Patrick Wilhelm
> Davidson College - ITS
> 704-894-2569
> pawilhelm AT davidson DOT edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Shinkarev [mailto:shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:43 AM
> To: Metcalf, Bob
> Cc: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Top 10 Things I Hate About NetBackup
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 08:44:23AM -0500, Metcalf, Bob wrote:
>
> I would say know problems with NBpatchXXX
>
> NB_34_2 too new to say something.
> NB_34_1 Windows NT media server problem. Numerous read/write
> errors
> sg driver problem on Solaris Media Server.
> J850645 Introduced RESOURCES_BUSY error.
> new 3.4 sg driver replaced later with old 3.2 driver.
> ......
>
>
> >
> > Here's my gripe....
> >
> > How about a pathc-level Matrix on the bloody
> > web site? How hard is this:
> >
> > Solaris7 server, NBpatchXXX, NBpatchYYY
> > NT4SP6 server, NBpatchHHH, NBpatchTTT
> >
> > Is there anybody out there that can claim
> > to actually make sense of the current page?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miriam Ben-Haim [mailto:miriam AT techunix.technion.ac DOT il]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:55 AM
> > To: Fabbro, Andrew P
> > Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Top 10 Things I Hate About NetBackup
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I would add:
> >
> > full backup should not expire as long as other backups depending on
> > it are not expired, even if its original expiration date arrived.
> >
> > and
> >
> > update and install clients' software with ssh rather than rsh.
> >
> >
> >
> > Miriam
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Miriam Ben-Haim E-mail: miriam AT technion.ac DOT il
> > Unix Systems Phone : +972-4-8292177
> > Taub Computer Center Fax : +972-4-8236212
> > Technion - Israel Institute of Technology, Haifa 32000, ISRAEL
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Fabbro, Andrew P wrote:
> >
> > >Entertaining myself here at lunch, I present, in no particular
> order...
> > >
> > >10. Can't set exclude lists at the master, only at the client. Very
> silly.
> > >I would like to exclude, say, /tmp or WIN386.SWP on all clients in a
> class
> > >but I can't...instead, I have to make sure the exclude file is
> correct on
> > >each client. What a nightmare for large environments. Some admin
> adds a
> > >client (that I may not have access to check his setup) and doesn't
> set his
> > >exclude list properly. Now I'm chewing tapes for nothing, or worse,
> not
> > >backing up something he needs. What was the thinking here?
> Particularly
> > >since the raw Class database shows an Exclude field ;)
> > >
> > >9. "Use any available media server" doesn't round-robin. Strange but
> true
> > -
> > >it works the list of media servers *alphabetically*. If you have
> multiple
> > >media servers, then NetBackup will attempt to use all of the drives
> on #1,
> > >then go on to #2, etc. If one of the drives in #1 becomes free, then
> it'll
> > >use it before going back to #2. So if you have multiple media
> servers and
> > >want to distribute the load, it's difficult to do so because your
> full
> > tapes
> > >will naturally accumulate in the first (alphabetically speaking)
> storage
> > >unit.
> > >
> > >8. Can't restart just one stream. If a single stream fails, you have
> to
> > >rerun the whole backup job. Blech. Why can't I restart just that
> one
> > >stream?
> > >
> > >7. The X-windows backup/restore GUI doesn't have a "preview media
> required"
> > >feature for a restore. The Java backup/restore GUI doesn't show you
> a list
> > >of the backup images. I wish there was one that did both ;)
> > >
> > >6. bpinject sucks. I think bpinject is only packaged with bpvault.
> The
> > >design is really amazingly bad. The idea is that you can type
> "bpinject 2"
> > >and it'll dump the cap from robot 2 into the robot. However, if that
> robot
> > >is on another machine, then you need to have root-level .rhosts
> access to
> > >it. Oh sure, let me rewrite our site security policy so I can insert
> tapes
> > >- har! This is a particularly bad design because you can use
> Netbackup's
> > >vmchange to insert the tapes through NetBackup. The only reason you
> need
> > >.rhost access is to query the robot - I'm opening my whole system up
> just
> > so
> > >you can query the robot!?!?
> > >
> > >A better solution is simple:
> > >
> > > - write a service on the media server that runs out of inetd
> that
> > >reports the status of the robot. Takes
> > > about 100 lines of perl.
> > > - when the bpinject script needs to know what the status of the
> > >robot is, it can connect to this service
> > > and query the status of the robot, then use vmchange (vmadd,
> etc.)
> > >to insert tapes.
> > >
> > >5. jnbSA sends the root password in the clear. Come on people, this
> is
> > 2002
> > >- how hard would it be to encrypt this?
> > >
> > >4. Frequency for hours, days, and weeks...but not months! How can I
> do
> > once
> > >a month? I can do every 4 weeks, but that doesn't really work
> because
> > >there's an extra week every quarter.
> > >
> > >3. Stupid bug - put in a path like "/somewhere/someplace/blah ".
> Note
> > the
> > >blanks. Now run a coverage report. Note that this is reported as
> > >"UNCOVERED". Sheesh. Also, if you put "C:" in a file list, you'll
> get
> > only
> > >the "Veritas" folder on C:. If you put "C:\", though, you get
> everything.
> > >
> > >2. Archive doesn't make two copies, only one. Considering that
> you're
> > >blowing the data away from disk, I'd feel better if it was written to
> two
> > >tapes, but NetBackup only does one. I wish this was configurable.
> > >
> > >1. It's still better than any other product on the market.
> > >
> > >
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