All this licensing makes my head spin! Bring back amanda :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Bakh [mailto:bob.bakh AT home DOT com]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Melinda Orms; Gregg Yurchak; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu;
Charlie .
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO
Let me give this a shot having worked for VERITAS sales group.
1. SAN Media server, a server that can backup up it's own data to a tape
drive attached by a SAN. Must have SSO license per tape drive.
2. Media Server, can backup it's own data or other clients data from across
a network to it's own drives, connected via SAN or SCSI cable. SSO is an
option if you want to share the drives in a SAN.
3. SSO licensed per drive to allow for drive sharing in a SAN environment.
May be used between master, media servers and SAN media servers.
4. Client, technically anything backed up needs a client license, however,
VERITAS usually does not charge client licenses on masters, media servers or
SAN media servers to back themselves up.
5. Agent or options, anything that is added to a client or a server to
backup a specific application or appliance, such as NDMP, or Oracle.
6. Robotic Drive license, a cost per drive in a robot, SSO is in addition
to this not in place of.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melinda Orms" <morms AT es DOT com>
To: "Gregg Yurchak" <gyurchak AT veritas DOT com>;
<veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>; "Charlie ." <maver3640 AT hotmail
DOT com>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO
>
>
> It seemed odd to me so I made a point, previously, of clarifying this
> with our sales rep.
> He checked and assured me that the SAN Master and Media server licenses
> do not include the client license to back themselves up. It is a
> license to allow the server to write to media. We had to purchase extra
> licenses to comply with this licensing structure.
>
> So the word I got was that in a SAN situation, you need to purchase a
> client license for every machine that will be backed up, regardless of
> what 'server package' is installed.
>
> Each of our SAN media servers here is backing up several other clients
> and we paid just slightly less for these licenses than we did for our
> SAN Master license.
>
> Regards,
> Melinda Orms
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregg Yurchak [mailto:gyurchak AT veritas DOT com]
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:59 AM
> To: 'Trotman, Kevin'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; 'Charlie .'
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO
>
>
> I work in consulting, not in sales, but I was under the impression a SAN
> Media Server license was for a server to back itself up, and not any
> other
> clients, and was therefore sold at a reduced price from a regular media
> server. You just throw your huge Oracle database server onto the SAN
> (like
> it wouldn't be there all ready) and it can back itself up instead of
> going
> across the network.
>
> You still need SSO and the multi-hosted drive option for each media
> server,
> SAN or otherwise.
>
> Thanks,
> Gregg Yurchak
> VERITAS Professional Services
> Biloxi, MS
> Cell: 228.324.6939
> Office: 228.822.9810
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trotman, Kevin [mailto:Kevin_Trotman AT afcc DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 3:31 PM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; 'Charlie .'
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO
>
> 1.
>
> 3.2 and below would be SSO.
>
> 3.4 and above would be San Media License. It replaces the SSO
> functionality.
> It provides locking for multiple machine writes to a single tape drive
> (IE:
> multi-hosted drive support). You don't get multi-hosted drives with a
> regular Media License.
>
> 2.
>
> It's totally different. Conceptually at least. In a SAN, you're
> configuring
> how many drives a machine can use at one time, not how many drives are
> actually cabled to the machine (because all would be visible by the
> machine). Its a way of controlling load balancing in software. If you
> have
> two machines & ten drives, you can configure them as: 5/5 or 7/3 or 9/1.
> It
> all depends on how much each machine is backing up.
>
> 3.
>
> No, I think SSO is still bantered around some, but a SAN Media license
> is
> the same thing for 3.4 & above.
>
>
> 4.
>
> Regular media server = all of them.
> San media server = all of them.
>
> Course you'd actually be able to do backups to them correctly with a SAN
> Media server license. ;) You don't need SSO for this config if you're
> getting 3.4 or 4.5.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie . [mailto:maver3640 AT hotmail DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO
>
>
> Hello,
>
> 1. Could someone please explain the difference between a SAN media
> license
> and a "regular" media license. My understanding is that a media server,
> by
> default, can run backups (of itself or other clients) using a SCSI or FC
>
> interface to the tape drive. So what does a SAN media server license
> give
> me? Is it just saying it is "SAN compatible"?
>
> 2. If it is different, what do I have to do different in configuring a
> SAN
> media server as opposed to a regular media server?
>
> 3. SSO gives me the option to use all any of my drives in my SAN with
> any of
>
> my media servers - right? Would I still need an SSO license with a SAN
> media
>
> server license?
>
> 4. If I don't use SSO, how many drives would I be able to see and
> use from my media servers?
>
> FYI - I am working with a SAN environment, with 2 libraries with 26
> drives
> total, HP master server, HP and NT clients. Most of the HP and NT
> clients
> would be "SAN" media server.
>
> Thanks
> Charlie
>
>
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