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[Veritas-bu] RE: [NBUADV-L]: compression and DLT 7000

2001-02-19 10:09:50
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RE: [NBUADV-L]: compression and DLT 7000
From: Fritz, Todd [DABIS] Todd.Fritz AT state.ks DOT us
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:09:50 -0600
All,
It has been our experience that the 70 figure is an average, of
non-compressed, non-database data. I run a couple of backups that meet this
criteria and they are averaging 68.75GB per tape, however as mentioned
before, the compression ratio we get for our databases(ORACLE), more than
doubles the 70GB figure.

Todd Fritz
Systems Software 
D.I.S.C. Tech Support
State of Kansas
900 SW Jackson, 751 S
Topeka, Kansas 66612-1275
(785) 296-6640
Todd.Fritz AT state.ks DOT us

-----Original Message-----
From: David A. Chapa [mailto:david AT datastaff DOT com]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:16 AM
To: Dustin Scharf
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: [NBUADV-L]: compression and DLT 7000


Clifford:

After talking with my client over the weekend and 
finding out what they were backing up, I found that 
they were some db files.  These files had a lot 
of 'white space' or otherwise called sparse files that 
when backed up will compress much more than the 
advertised drive spec.

David

Quoting Dustin Scharf <dusty AT veritas DOT com>:

> Absolutely.  For example, at a previous job we 
rutinely (sp?) got 15:1
> compression from a an application using a cobol 
database... tons of white
> (blank) space in the files.  we would get well over 
300GB of data on a
> single DLT tape.  Conversely, try backing up a bunch 
of zip files or
> already
> compressed files... you won't get near the 70GB.
> 
> Dustin
> 
> Dustin Scharf
> Veritas Education Services
> dusty AT veritas DOT com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Dvorak [mailto:sdvorak AT veritas DOT com]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:40 PM
> To: 'David A. Chapa'; clifford thurber;
> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Cc: nbu-lserv AT datastaff DOT com
> Subject: RE: [NBUADV-L]: compression and DLT 7000
> 
> 
> The 70GB limit on DLT 7000 drives is assuming 2:1 
compression.  The drive
> is
> capable of producing greater compression rates than 
this.  Thus, if the
> data
> is highly compressable, the drive should be able to 
get better than 2:1.
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David A. Chapa [mailto:david AT datastaff DOT com]
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:33 PM
> To: clifford thurber; veritas-
bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Cc: nbu-lserv AT datastaff DOT com
> Subject: RE: [NBUADV-L]: compression and DLT 7000
> 
> 
> I've seen the same thing at another customer's 
site...the Veritas SE that
> was onsite before me said that it may be due to some 
HIGHLY compressable
> data...I'm not sure I know what that means since I 
haven't had an
> opportunity to research it further.
> 
> David
> 
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> David A. Chapa
> Consulting Manager
> DataStaff, Inc.
> 847 413 1144
> http://www.consulting.datastaff.com
> ---------------------------------------
> NBU-LSERV AT datastaff DOT com - Adv. Scripting
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nbu-lserv AT datastaff DOT com
> [mailto:owner-nbu-lserv AT datastaff DOT com]On Behalf Of 
clifford thurber
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:05 PM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Cc: nbu-lserv AT datastaff DOT com
> Subject: [NBUADV-L]: compression and DLT 7000
> 
> 
> Hello,
> We are using Netbackup 3.2 on Solaris 7 with Quantam 
DLT 7000 Drives. We
> have the following line in our st.conf file
> DLT7k-data =    
1,0x36,0,0x9639,4,0x84,0x83,0x0,0x85,3;
> Which I believe denotes that we have 70GB of storage 
in  compressed mode. I
> also believe that this is the theoretical limiton DLT 
7000's using
> compression. The confusing part is that when I run 
the media list report I
> see tapes that are 87GB, 129GB and 111GB. Can someone 
tell me how this is
> even possible? Veritas was not able to give me an 
answer to this? Thanks in
> advance I will summarize.
> Clifford
> 




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