Actually I believe there is a different price for SAN media server as
opposed to
a regular media server. A SAN media server is a system that is backing
itself
up over a SAN using SSO but is not backing up remote clients. I would
assume
most of these media servers would fall in that class. Some of the problems
with configuring regular media servers that also backed up clients using SSO
have been addressed in NetBackup 3.4 where you don't have to have as many
classes that all use a specific (their) storage unit. A parameter has been
added
that says USE LOCAL DRIVES. In this case if a backup of a client starts and
the
client is also a SAN media server it would use it's own SAN connected
drives.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: W. Curtis Preston [mailto:curtis AT colltech DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 12:57 PM
To: Pat Whelan; 'Dean, James'; 'Buffington, Devon'; 'veritas nbu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Veritas SSO
Have you considered the COST of 5000 media server licenses? We're talking
$25M just for that. Then you would have to add SSO licenses for each of
those media servers. Wow!
At 05:49 PM 7/17/00 -0700, Pat Whelan wrote:
>If I understand the question right, there are 500-5000 clients, each with
>fiber cards, needing to be backed up? If this is the case than I agree
whole
>heatedly with the observation. If however there are fewer systems with
>fiber cards than only those systems need their own class. The rest can be
>divided into manageable groups with a set of clients going to one storage
>unit, or better yet to "Any Available". Just my two cents worth.
>
>The biggest installation problems appear to be from the hardware
>configuration side. Also depending upon the target and lun numbers used,
the
>NBU configuration utilities may need tweaking. (e.g. sg.conf, on Suns)
>
>Patrick Whelan
>Consulting
>[NBU (with extensions) and Storage Migrator for UNIX]
>[VxFS and Volume Manager]
>pwhelan AT veritas DOT com
>
>Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong. - Dennis Miller
>Friends help friends move, good friends help move bodies - Unknown.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean, James [mailto:jimmy.dean AT usi DOT net]
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 3:31 PM
> To: 'Buffington, Devon'; 'veritas nbu'
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Veritas SSO
>
> I would like to add to this a small problem I have seen in
>implementing this
> and see if the same person has any ideal how to work
around
>it. We are
> currently undergoing a migration from another backup
>platform to using
> Netbackup with and without the SSO option, i.e. IP based
>backups and SAN
> based backups.
>
> With the SSO option, this turns every client on the
SAN/(w/
>a fiber card)
> into a media server. What this means is having a separate
>class with only
> one client defined per client. In a large environment
(500
>- 5000 clients)
> this becomes a major nightmare to administer and track
(500
>- 5000 classes).
> Especially if you make a backup window change. I agree
with
>some of you
> that would say that this gives you more flexibility with
>scheduling, but I
> am really not concerned with that in light of the number
of
>clients.
>
> Does anyone else see a problem with this, and if not,
could
>you offer some
> possible solutions as a work around.
>
> Thanks,
> James Dean
> Enterprise Backup
> USinternetworking Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Buffington, Devon
>[mailto:Devon_Buffington AT AIMFUNDS DOT COM]
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 4:47 PM
> To: 'veritas nbu'
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Veritas SSO
>
>
> Hello,
> Looking to see if anyone out there has experience with
>Veritas' SSO product.
> If so, could you share your impressions on ease of
>installation, ease of
> use, and if it improved your backups. Also, any particular
>problems you had
> installing or using it would be helpful.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Devon S. Buffington
> UNIX System Administrator
> AIM Management Group
>
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