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Re: [Networker] Exchange 2010 with NMM 2.4 and Networker 8.0

2013-01-22 11:24:36
Subject: Re: [Networker] Exchange 2010 with NMM 2.4 and Networker 8.0
From: jee <jee AT ERESMAS DOT NET>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:24:11 +0000
Can you try starting the backup 30 minutes later and see if it fails at 10:30 
or still at 10:00? That would confirm a timeout or rule it out.


Matthew Powell <mtpowel AT CLEMSON DOT EDU> wrote:

>Thanks Lars, for the suggestion but we have inactivity timeout already at 0. 
>The tcp keep alive parameters have been set on both networker host and a one 
>of the exchange servers to test with and it did not help. Still died but the 
>funny thing is that the server never thinks the job fails until I kill it. It 
>is still just sitting there expecting information from Exchange servers.  Name 
>resolution works on all systems. That was first think EMC wanted us to check. 
>We have had this case with EMC going now for about a month with no production 
>exchange backups. 
>
>Matt Powell
>mtpowel AT clemson DOT edu
>864-656-0589 (Office)
>864-247-2823 (Cell)
>Storage Administrator
>Clemson Computing and Information Technology
>
>On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Lars Törnblom <lars.tornblom AT PROACT DOT SE>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> 
>> One thing you can try is to set the inactivity timeout on the group to "0" = 
>> disabled
>> if it helps you can test with a high value like 180.
>> 
>> the TCP_KEEP Alive parameters have you tuned it on the backup server and the 
>> exchange nodes.
>> 
>> another thing to check is the name resolution within the exchange cluster.
>> the easiest way is to add all nodes and the DAG node to the hosts file on 
>> all exchange nodes.
>> 
>> br //Lars
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 22 jan 2013, at 16:19, Tony Albers <Tony.Albers AT proact-externt DOT 
>> dk<mailto:Tony.Albers AT proact-externt DOT dk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is the behaviour the same on all exchange servers? If so, could there be 
>> firewalls/routers in between trying to shape the traffic, maybe dropping ACK 
>> packets?
>> 
>> Are all your exchange servers in the same savegroup in NW? Have you tried 
>> splitting them up in several groups with different start times?
>> 
>> How about cron on the backup server? Anything in there that might cause this?
>> 
>> The fact that this happens at exactly 10 PM still points to something that's 
>> scheduled somewhere.
>> 
>> When the backups die, is there anything interesting in the nmm.raw file on 
>> the client?
>> 
>> Have you enabled savegroup logging on the networker server? Anything in the 
>> log file at around 10 PM?
>> 
>> Have you tried running savegrp -vvvc clientname savegroupname on the CLI on 
>> the NW server?
>> 
>> I have to go now, but I'll check my mail again later and maybe I've got some 
>> more suggestions.
>> 
>> /tony
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: Matthew Powell [mailto:mtpowel AT clemson DOT edu<http://clemson.edu>]
>> Sendt: 22. januar 2013 16:06
>> Til: Tony Albers
>> Cc: EMC NetWorker discussion
>> Emne: Re: Exchange 2010 with NMM 2.4 and Networker 8.0
>> 
>> I do backups to disk sir. I have been getting speeds of about 115 MB/s for 5 
>> save streams from it. Yes it dies at 10:00 pm. There are no scheduled jobs 
>> on exchange server that the group has found. If I just tell it to do 3 
>> Information stores or less it works but that would take forever since we 
>> have 6 servers with 10 stores each on them. Thanks for your help sir. I 
>> appreciate it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Matt Powell
>> mtpowel AT clemson DOT edu<mailto:mtpowel AT clemson DOT edu>
>> 864-656-0589 (Office)
>> 864-247-2823 (Cell)
>> Storage Administrator
>> Clemson Computing and Information Technology
>> 
>> On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Tony Albers <Tony.Albers AT proact DOT dk>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Exchange backup with NMM can be a real pain. But it usually works fine once 
>> you get all the kinks straightened out.
>> 
>> So, if the job starts at 8 PM, will it die at 10 PM that same day?  That is, 
>> 2 hrs later?
>> 
>> The fact that it happens at that exact time would have me looking for 
>> scheduled jobs or something similar that might affect the backups.
>> 
>> How do you do the backups(to tape or disk or..), and at what speed?
>> 
>> /tony
>> 
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] 
>> På vegne af Matthew Powell
>> Sendt: 22. januar 2013 15:48
>> Til: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
>> Emne: [Networker] Exchange 2010 with NMM 2.4 and Networker 8.0
>> 
>> We are using Networker 8.0 server on Solaris 10 and we are having the worst 
>> issues trying to back up Exchange 2010. I have an open case with EMC and 
>> they are at a loss. I am just curious if anyone on this thread used Legato 
>> to back up Exchange 2010 and if you are having any issues with it. Our issue 
>> seems to stem from a timeout issue but we have set the TCP settings that EMC 
>> has recommended but it has not helped. It is like the job makes the snapshot 
>> and then starts to back it up and then just times out during the process and 
>> it is always at 10:00 pm at night. It doesn't matter when the job started, 
>> before 10:00 pm or after it will bomb by 10:00 pm the next day. Thanks for 
>> your time and I hope everyone has a wonderful day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Matt Powell
>> mtpowel AT clemson DOT edu
>> 864-656-0589 (Office)
>> 864-247-2823 (Cell)
>> Storage Administrator
>> Clemson Computing and Information Technology